New Pard 007S

[majortom1966]

As I mentioned earlier, it does sound as though there may be something about the design of the S model that is so different from the A/V models resulting in it not working well on scopes that work with the A/V models, unless of course the Optisan has changed design/lens coatings etc over time.

As @Colesy says, do you know anyone local who may be able to lend you a scope or let you set the 007 up as a test bed?

The joys of airgunning eh!

Keeps us all out of mischief though....

 

[OldStock]

OK you've probably done this already but this is what I'd do.

Make sure the eyepiece of the scope is set up for normal vision, then mount the IR adapter and play with the distance from the scope to get the best image coverage.
Go through the normal setup, rear eyepiece for the menu, Pard focus on the reticule, then objective on the target.
Bear in mind Infrared focuses at different point to white light, that is why camera lenses had a small red spot beside the white focus point. To use the Infrared focus on an manual SLR it was focus by eye, then move that white distance to the red point (would appear out of focus to the eye but infrared should be right). I think that would work against the closest setting as on the lens beside me white light 3m is much further in IR.
You probably should set it up roughly in daylight then repeat at night.

There could also be the issue of lens coatings, if the lenses are filtering infrared light they will obviously give a grainy (high electronic gain) image.

 

[ukzero1]

PERFECT OF THE SCOPE crisp clear picture got to be the scope

Probably the lens coating blocking the IR light. There are a number of scopes that do it.

 

[gunnery]

This now is making a new set of problems
1 i bought add on ie 007s so it could be used with my favorite scope ie shoot in day light then as it gets darker simply click on my 007s simple
2 buy a cheap scope with poor coatings on lence but works with 007 so i shoot with a poor scope all day and then clip n/v on it for night
3 if i left my cp3 on it shooting daytime then i take it of and mount cheap scope and n/v on for night i may as well bought a 008s
so conclusion what scope is best to shoot with in daytime and works with 007s at night thanks

 

[FarmerM]

Hawke Airmax works well for me with my 12mm pard 007

 

[BenBhoy]

I was out on the rats a few nights ago, I use the cp 3-12 scope on a Leshiy and with a pard nv007v 16mm I could focus down to around 10 yards

Likewise, my ratting at weekend was with a 3-9 with 16mm 007v. Rats 10yd no bother just bit of adjustment to AO

 

[ukzero1]

This now is making a new set of problems
1 i bought add on ie 007s so it could be used with my favorite scope ie shoot in day light then as it gets darker simply click on my 007s simple
2 buy a cheap scope with poor coatings on lence but works with 007 so i shoot with a poor scope all day and then clip n/v on it for night
3 if i left my cp3 on it shooting daytime then i take it of and mount cheap scope and n/v on for night i may as well bought a 008s
so conclusion what scope is best to shoot with in daytime and works with 007s at night thanks

Most Hawke scopes work very well with the Pard 007. I use a Hawke 3-12x50 with mine.

 

[Rookandrabbit]

@gunnery I also have the pard 007s I fitted it to a Vector optics scope 4-16x44. It look as though I was looking through heavy rain or snow when I used it at night. Very disappointed
HOWEVER swapped it with a Hawke scope and literally day and night superb image!! I don’t know if the lenses of the vector scopes are coated in a different way to the Hawke but I thought the Pard was defective until I fitted it to the Hawke. Your experience may vary but the Hawke scope will focus down to very close ranges and was perfect for my needs. Thanks again to Optics Warehouse for their help!
Good luck with your endeavours!

 

[gunnery]

Hi Mr Rabbit what hawke model of scope did you use to get good results thanks

 

[keithy]

its only x3 how much lower can you get is there no setting on the Pard thanks

Yes there is its not in the instructions though!! I struggled with mine! Its the minus button it cycles through about three different magnifications! I wish it had no magnification i was trying to shoot at short range at scope mag 18x multiplied by i think it was 4x mag on the pard 007s!! I used it last night and eventually managed to get a decent picture through it at 300yds which impressed me! I had an auxiliary ir laser clipped to my impact. I also forgot to take the instructions with me which didnt help.

 

[keithy]

i am using built in IR not a add on switch it on with IR button and cycle through 1,2,3, setting i can see IR doing its job ok and can adjust beam by pulling forward for spot and back for flood lit what i have noticed is Blue indication light flashing when in use but battery power ok seems to flash when i am on IR mode i have also noticed red laser beam on photo of the 007s but mine doe,s not have it on for some reason

My 007s flashes when using the built in ir, also the retical focus is the small wheel on the side, the eye piece is for focusing the menu characters.

 

[majortom1966]

My 007s flashes when using the built in ir, also the retical focus is the small wheel on the side, the eye piece is for focusing the menu characters.

Someone on the Facebook Pard group also said the 007S has a blue flashing light when in NV mode, perhaps they meant when the inbuilt IR is on as you say, seems an odd way to set up the device when you're trying to be stealthy.

I wonder if the other versions also do this, I've never noticed on my 007A because I never use the inbuilt IR, I always use a torch, I'll have to check.

@gunnery For reference I use a Hawke Compact scope with the 007V and Sytong HT77 LRF without any issues.

 

[gunnery]

@gunnery I also have the pard 007s I fitted it to a Vector optics scope 4-16x44. It look as though I was looking through heavy rain or snow when I used it at night. Very disappointed
HOWEVER swapped it with a Hawke scope and literally day and night superb image!! I don’t know if the lenses of the vector scopes are coated in a different way to the Hawke but I thought the Pard was defective until I fitted it to the Hawke. Your experience may vary but the Hawke scope will focus down to very close ranges and was perfect for my needs. Thanks again to Optics Warehouse for their help!
Good luck with your endeavours!

thanks for your reply when using yours in IR mode is there a blue light flashing

 

[gunnery]

My 007s flashes when using the built in ir, also the retical focus is the small wheel on the side, the eye piece is for focusing the menu characters.

what scope do you use with yours for clear picture make and model thanks

 

[william bonny]

There was a whole thread on the old AGF that dealt with suitable and unsuitable scopes for Pard 007 use. I said at the time it would be great if someone with the skills could do a simple reference list of two columns, suitable/unsuitable and how many people recommended each scope.
I use Optisan EVE 4-16 x44, Optisan EVX 3-12 x 44, and Hawke Frontier 2.5-15 x 50, have also used Hawke Vantage 4-16 x 44, and although these were good, they were not as good as the Optisan and Frontier for clarity.

 

[gunnery]

There was a whole thread on the old AGF that dealt with suitable and unsuitable scopes for Pard 007 use. I said at the time it would be great if someone with the skills could do a simple reference list of two columns, suitable/unsuitable and how many people recommended each scope.
I use Optisan EVE 4-16 x44, Optisan EVX 3-12 x 44, and Hawke Frontier 2.5-15 x 50, have also used Hawke Vantage 4-16 x 44, and although these were good, they were not as good as the Optisan and Frontier for clarity.

thats what i cant understand how do you know your buying the right one

 

[majortom1966]

My 007s flashes when using the built in ir, also the retical focus is the small wheel on the side, the eye piece is for focusing the menu characters.

The solution to the blue flashing light offered by a member of the Facebook Pard group was to stick a bit of electrical tape over the light, a simple solution to a problem that shouldn't exist.

 

[william bonny]

@mealiejimmie thread #22 is the man to listen to.
Other than that try and look through someone's scope/007 set-up and see what theirs is like compared to yours. The image quality will vary with the weather conditions, high moisture in the air is not good, and clear and dry is good for image quality. It's never going to be as clear looking through a Pard 007 as it is just looking through the glass on your scope.

 

[gunnery]

Right been back to Tim at McAvoy Guns told him the problem first he rang Pard to ask if Optisan CP3 3-12-x32 was compatible with Pard and they said it is so he took my unit into basement where it is pitch black gave it a good testing and he agreed it was a faulty unit so no problem he exchanged it for a new Pard 007s as for flashing light when using built in IR that what it doe,s
dont know what nerd came up with that idea but i can live with that with the help of a bit of black sticky tape as long as i have a good clear picture to-night alls well

 

[FarmerM]

Fingers crossed!