nav2022
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Give me two days in that area with my metal detector, I'll find ya battle field.
I know where I'd be starting.
I know where I'd be starting.
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Battle of Agincourt, some interesting stuff.
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This is a great thread
What is the evidence to support the mainstream view that this is the site of the battle?
Looking on google actually some people seem to agree with your assessment.
www.medieval.eu
They put the burial pits in the same general areas that you have highlighted, you may well be right.
Where did the Battle of Agincourt take place?
In a new article, Michael Livingston generously allows us to follow in his footsteps while he studies the layout of the battleground of Agincourt.
www.medieval.eu
They put the burial pits in the same general areas that you have highlighted, you may well be right.
nav2022
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There isn't any, the battlefield survey failed to find one single artifact.
Woodbutcher
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Having a rummage around online for WW2 activity in the area and I've turned up something that will explain a lot of the soil disturbances right on your site unfortunately ... 
Maisoncelle was the location of a V1 launch site and was obviously visited by the RAF at some point judging by the proliferation of bomb craters in the aerial photo.
Maisoncelle was the location of a V1 launch site and was obviously visited by the RAF at some point judging by the proliferation of bomb craters in the aerial photo.
V1-FSt 639
Übersicht der V1-Feuerstellung 639, Maisoncelle; Département Pas-de-Calais, Frankreich.
www.christianch.ch
V1-FSt 639
Übersicht der V1-Feuerstellung 639, Maisoncelle; Département Pas-de-Calais, Frankreich.
www.christianch.ch
nav2022
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Yes its took a few hits but a lot of the ground disturbances are square. The small bomb craters wouldn't account for the trauma in the field unless the launch site was in that field but it does put a new twist to it.Having a rummage around online for WW2 activity in the area and I've turned up something that will explain a lot of the soil disturbances right on your site unfortunately ...
Maisoncelle was the location of a V1 launch site and was obviously visited by the RAF at some point judging by the proliferation of bomb craters in the aerial photo.
V1-FSt 639
Übersicht der V1-Feuerstellung 639, Maisoncelle; Département Pas-de-Calais, Frankreich.www.christianch.ch
V1-FSt 639
Übersicht der V1-Feuerstellung 639, Maisoncelle; Département Pas-de-Calais, Frankreich.www.christianch.ch
nav2022
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I'm glad you posted that pic, I now know where the tree line is for the battlefield. 
nav2022
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The V1 site is just north of Maisoncelle and not in my proposed battlefield but bombs could have hit. Judging by the craters they are not big bombs. It does however discount the French attacking the English from the east so my battle direction has to be wrong.Having a rummage around online for WW2 activity in the area and I've turned up something that will explain a lot of the soil disturbances right on your site unfortunately ...
Maisoncelle was the location of a V1 launch site and was obviously visited by the RAF at some point judging by the proliferation of bomb craters in the aerial photo.
V1-FSt 639
Übersicht der V1-Feuerstellung 639, Maisoncelle; Département Pas-de-Calais, Frankreich.www.christianch.ch
V1-FSt 639
Übersicht der V1-Feuerstellung 639, Maisoncelle; Département Pas-de-Calais, Frankreich.www.christianch.ch
There is a row of trees which I think is the edge of a wood.
This means if the French attack Henry at L'Anglais they come from the north or west.
Interesting.
Enfield2band
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It is very interesting I'm glad you posted this on here.
I'm curious about the arrow penetration. I have seen two examples of this.
One was with compressed air and the arrow bounced off at close range.
The second was with an arrow loosed from a Longbow. The arrow penetrated (I can't recall at what distance) but because the arrow was in flight when it hit the armour it expended its energy by waggling up and down and this in effect caused the arrow to bore into the armour.
Something else to think about, possibly.
I'm curious about the arrow penetration. I have seen two examples of this.
One was with compressed air and the arrow bounced off at close range.
The second was with an arrow loosed from a Longbow. The arrow penetrated (I can't recall at what distance) but because the arrow was in flight when it hit the armour it expended its energy by waggling up and down and this in effect caused the arrow to bore into the armour.
Something else to think about, possibly.
valevelo
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I think the soil damage you've highlighted in this pic is most likely bomb damage.
The 2015 imagery on Google Earth shows up the V1 site really nicely, particularly the launch ramp
A few of the rings of nettles next to sheds make me think they've been feeding cattle out as well, especially.
Love looking at satellite images. This was nice to find on our neighbours farm (2020 drought), hill fort overlooking the river. The round earth ditches clearly show up
The 2015 imagery on Google Earth shows up the V1 site really nicely, particularly the launch ramp
A few of the rings of nettles next to sheds make me think they've been feeding cattle out as well, especially.
Love looking at satellite images. This was nice to find on our neighbours farm (2020 drought), hill fort overlooking the river. The round earth ditches clearly show up
And Crecy, Waterloo, Trafalgar, the Nile, Mers-el-Kabir.....The battle was in 1415, and the French still hold a grudge against the British for it...
nav2022
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Feeding cattle might not produce high nitrogen in the soil, it would if it wasn't eaten and left.
Usually you'll find nettles in patches are caused if you spill amonium nitrate fertilizer, heaps of dung or pits.
It can be many things. Pits are just one example.
The real crux of the argument is when you find oblongs or squares which cannot be accounted for.
That's why I'm in this field. Annomolies not seen anywhere else in the area and I'm on it like a rash especially when its near L'Anglais.
This is where I'd start my survey with my detector. There is no where else to start. The official field has been done and nothing so you start at the last known English position and where there is at least ground activity.
Woodbutcher
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You'd think the bombing and construction would have turned up artifacts , but I guess they had other things on their minds at the time.
Woodbutcher
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Well stop faffin' about on here , off you trot and get detecting ...
nav2022
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When they built Ferrybridge power station they destroyed an entire bronze age settlement and never said a word. Twenty years ago they found a chariot and burial site next door during the A1M construction.
nav2022
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They banned detecting years ago in most of France, you need a permit.Well stop faffin' about on here , off you trot and get detecting ...
valevelo
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I'm not disagreeing with your post #1 in the thread, just the follow up in post #19. The linear features you picked up in post #1 are definitely the place to start.
Fed plenty of cattle and find they either
their beds or their plates. The amount of dung and disturbance around a ring feeder is amazing, and any weed seeds are concentrated in the bottom, then new bale on top so goes fousty and gets left.The circles here are from ring feeders being used before I was born, 35+ years. The shed had a roof for starters
still get nettles now even with spraying there's so much seedbank left behind
Enfield2band
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Couldn't you put it in the bottom of a shopping bag so its not obvious?.....Just joking.
A small point, nettles will grow where the ground has been disturbed and rubbish has been dumped they don't need fertiliser.
nav2022
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Depends how long the nitrogen lasts. They are very, very nitrogen hungry just like Barley, wheat and other grasses.
If you get patches that last decades you know something is down there supplying it. The archeologists always look for it, any kind of difference in a field that stands out that cannot be accounted for.
Celtic rubbish pits full of human waste, animal bones and discarded organic matter still have a habit of producing high growth many years later. You can see them on Aerial shots in certain places.