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Another new Pard…..

Okrang said:
The whole lens cap assembly feels a bit of an afterthought, which is a shame, because the rest of the scope has so far proved itself faultless and well-conceived. Personally I don't think there are grounds to get too nervous about the product, but if you are feeling that way, maybe best to go straight for a replacement. I don't think Pard will have had time yet to arrange spares for repairs to what appears to be becoming an emerging known issue. Give them time I guess - what with holidays, covid pandemic in China and postal strikes, it's a bit of a bad time to get anything resolved in a hurry! Cheers, John.
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I have to agree, the lens hood assembly does let an otherwise excellent unit down - although I'm not exactly blown away by the ocular adjuster. When I spoke to George at Sportsman Gun Centre he said as yet they don't have any spares for these units but were expecting a delivery yesterday (Friday 23rd). I don't think George really understood what had happened as mine was the first reported to them, which is probably why he wanted to whole lot returned to him.
 
shotaholic said:
I have to agree, the lens hood assembly does let an otherwise excellent unit down - although I'm not exactly blown away by the ocular adjuster. When I spoke to George at Sportsman Gun Centre he said as yet they don't have any spares for these units but were expecting a delivery yesterday (Friday 23rd). I don't think George really understood what had happened as mine was the first reported to them, which is probably why he wanted to whole lot returned to him.
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Yeah, the ocular adjustment is pretty Heath Robinson but at least it does give plenty of travel and once set, seems to stay put - it works for me, but I think it is fair to say that it has been built to a price, which is a shame when compared to the rest of the build quality. Cheers, John.
 
mealiejimmie said:
PARD advertise the DS35 as having 20-300mm eyerelief.
The long dioptre adjustment is needed to get that long eye relief for a wide range human vision

Cheers

Bruce
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Yeah I realise that Bruce and can see (no pun intended) that the long dioptre adjustment has it advantages. The problem I have is that my .243 is used by two different people with eyesights at the far ends of the adjustment. It is good however that the massive eye relief allows the scope to be positioned on the rifle to easily cope with both people. Given the way the lens hood just fell off I just wonder how the scope will cope with constantly winding the ocular in and out.
 
Russ....looking at your vid to me the 008 gives a better image,horizontal not looking 'stretched'....are you seeing a better image with the naked eye than is shown via the recordings?
 
eddy6419 said:
Russ....looking at your vid to me the 008 gives a better image,horizontal not looking 'stretched'....are you seeing a better image with the naked eye than is shown via the recordings?
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Hi Eddy, as usual I corrected the PARD008S-LRF footage from its raw (stretched) 1,930x1,080 (16:9) state, back to 1,440x1,080 (4:3), so circles are circular.

The as-recorded 1,440x1,080 DS35 footage looks to be slightly stretched by comparison, but not as distorted as the 008S' raw/uncorrected footage. I haven't measured the distortion yet, will do that once my own DS35-70RF arrives from SGC.

Yep the live DS35 view and recorded footage does look sharper, that's the inevitable issue with editing several scope feeds and processing / exporting them together. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Cheers. Russ
 
From what I’m seeing and reading overall it seems to me the 008s is the better unit …. Image wise there doesn’t seem to be much in it … and the ds tube is different sizes each end … the front falls off in the first 5mins (so what’s going to go wrong weeks and months down the line !)
🤦‍♂️… I’m not holding me breath here !
 
SHW said:
From what I’m seeing and reading overall it seems to me the 008s is the better unit …. Image wise there doesn’t seem to be much in it … and the ds tube is different sizes each end … the front falls off in the first 5mins (so what’s going to go wrong weeks and months down the line !)
🤦‍♂️… I’m not holding me breath here !
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As a long-time lover of 008-LRF and then 008S-LRFs, having reviewed the DS35-70RF and already selling one of my two 008S-LRFs to bought my own, this kinda says it all. 🤷🏻‍♂️

If the DS35-50RF is indeed better for non-FAC range airgun use (expected to be 4x/8x and a wider FOV), I can see me selling my remaining 008S-LRF to buy my own. If that happens the DS35-70RF may well live on my .22" FAC M3 Sniper, for longer-range use (rabbits).

My dream would eventually be to afford a DS35-50RF to pop on each rifle I borrow for review... they're that good.
Cheers. Russ
 
I’m really hoping it does stand the test of time, and my cap issue is resolved quickly. I really like it, and want to get the 50 version as well. Fingers crossed I get the replacement cap soon without any further dramas 🤞🏻
 
SHW said:
From what I’m seeing and reading overall it seems to me the 008s is the better unit …. Image wise there doesn’t seem to be much in it … and the ds tube is different sizes each end … the front falls off in the first 5mins (so what’s going to go wrong weeks and months down the line !)
🤦‍♂️… I’m not holding me breath here !
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In which case, stay happy and stick with the 008s then! Progress happens when people take steps beyond the safety of known territory - not ready for that? no problem! Cheers, John.
 
I have had my 008 since they first came out 4 years maybe more, but took the plunge and brought the ds35 after a lot of deliberation, I almost brought the Alpex I am glad I didn't because the ds35 wins hands down in my book, it as almost everything I need from a scope, because if it hadn't I would of sent it back, and if it does go wrong I have a 2 year warranty. Just put your hand in you pockets then you can get your hand on one and if it doesn't suit you just send it back.
 
I’ve used every bit of digital night vision kit on the market, so trust me when I say the DS35 is an excellent all in one piece of kit, even more so for airgun and rimfire users, you will never please everyone , some will want to slate a product without owning it, others will pick at the slightest issues as being a life or death scenario ..

Out of 100+ DS35 units sold , 2 units had a plastic lens cap that came loose …. Let’s get serious , it’s hardly life or death… is it ? Pard will resolve that, if it is an issue on some ..

You have some Alpex units that have reverted to default settings, C50 units that can lock up, all digital can have a niggles..

I own a DS35 personally, if it was poor I would not entertain one….. in the new year, I’ll be creating a video of the product and sharing real time hunting footage alongside , of this great NV scope in action ..
 
RussDouglas222 said:
Awesome experienced-user assessment Ian, am editing my own ratting footage video right now, and I look forward to yours.
Your Alpex/Impact M3 bunny hunting video was excellent.
All the best for a Happy & Healthy New Year, cheers. Russ
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Thanks Russ, merry christmas to you and your family..

The IR on these units are phenomenal, they offer the full flood, zoom, focus and position adjustability of top end Pulsar IR torch units, but with excellent range and all built into the product. The reticules are super fine and FFP style, LRF system is 1000m, ballistic application offers something nothing on the market currently can, inbuilt incline and cant indicator, IPS display... super lightweight 720 gram with tube style mounting, that oozes versatility from dovetail, weaver, low, medium, high, offset mounting options , 18650 cell power. Optically the longest focal length in it's class, so provides the best long range resolution/detail at range.

I shoot thousands of rabbits at longer ranges using airguns. The DS35 provides everything that I need. I can go out in daytime and shoot to longer ranges with great quality, I can swap to night mode at night, I need no additional accessories that add further weight, I can eliminate CANT that is the scourge of airgun trajectories at distance even more so with bullpup rifles increasing scope height, utilising the in display indicator, I can quickly swap out power in the field, my guns weight is reduced, the higher optical mag aids precision, the ballistic calculator and LRF totally UP the game with this unit and allows rapid precision and assassin like instant holdover for fast long range shots....

I own an Alpex, I own a C50, I own every Pard model from 1st generation NV007, NV008, through to current, I've used Wulfs, Sightmarks, etc

I would NOT own a Sightmark Wraith or Wulf to be perfectly and bluntly honest... The DS35 trounces them in every aspect. The C50 offers excellent build and the best low light ability in its class, excellent reticules with the Pard reticule choices closely behind, the Alpex is a great unit for the money also, providing excellent value...... but the DS35 offers even more, yes the other two at low light, with there faster F value lenses gather more ambient light to perform in no IR conditions, but the Pard has it's immense IR illuminator that punches out to 300yd plus and provides the 1440px resolution sensor with enough light to perform...

The DS35 can hold it's own, for sure....
 
Thanks Ian for your detailed assessment, very reassuring. After reading the responses on this thread it does seem at the moment that the cap is the only issue I’m aware of, unfortunately I’m one of those. So for me it will be all about the after service now, how quickly it’s resolved so I can use my scope fully and confidently again. I look forward to receiving the replacement cap, thanks again. 👍🏻
 
The 35 does look excellent , I’ve still gone for a 008 LRF simply because it’s going on a bullpup and wanted to stay away from scope form factor. Otherwise I would have grabbed one👍🏻
 
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