What is a zombie knife

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Just watching the news, stating zombie-style knives banned from Tue.
To me a zombie knife means the likes of knife in the Rambo series of films am I correct?
Can people post images of "styles"? Very sure I will have nothing close to this, I'm not a collector of knives , but wonder what style means.
Maybe just another loop hole by poor definition for the law to arrest a wider group down the line?
 
Just read the above page, thanks.
However they show a blade image that they declare is legal that looks pretty scary to me , but as my bread knife which I would think is over 8inchs of blade is going to become illegal, if I read it right, just not sure about the 90degree bit? 😲
 
GrandPA said:
Just read the above page, thanks.
However they show a blade image that they declare is legal that looks pretty scary to me , but as my bread knife which I would think is over 8inchs of blade is going to become illegal, if I read it right, just not sure about the 90degree bit? 😲
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A standard kitchen knife with a single cutting edge, blade over 8 inches and a sharp point is fine.

Checklist:
  1. Blade over 8 inches
  2. Sharp point
  3. Plain cutting edge.
The above is fine as long as it doesnt also have:
  • A serrated cutting edge (other than one no longer than two inches next to the handle).
  • More than one hole (of any shape) in the blade.
  • Spikes.
  • More than two sharp points in the blade.
 
Perhaps someone can explain how an additional hole makes a knife more dangerous?

I suspect the only zoombies about today are in Westminister?
 
CJM said:
Perhaps someone can explain how an additional hole makes a knife more dangerous?

I suspect the only zoombies about today are in Westminister?
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Its the type of person that wants a knife with an additional hole, more than one point etc that is the issue, not the knife itself.
 
CJM said:
Perhaps someone can explain how an additional hole makes a knife more dangerous?

I suspect the only zoombies about today are in Westminister?
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Most of the ones with more than one hole are cheap items that idiots will buy to intimidate and attack people with .

The Book of Eli one for example .

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Other than some one who collects Movie replicas , Not many would use that for a legitimate reason .

same with this .
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Any one who still wants to own them for collecting can if they make them "blunt" from what some are saying when you read the legislation but its not exactly clear as in most legislation . It needs to be clarified further .



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Catweazle said:
This one has me stumped.

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It does not meet the criteria for a zombie knife , Its under 8 inches with the blade exposed from the handle as per the legislation.

The fact it has a saw on it may confuse people but it's in the handle when the blade is in use .


Checklist: does the Sog fit the legislation? It needs to meet the 3 points below .
  1. Blade over 8 inches = No .Blade Length: 4.75" x 0.15"
  2. Sharp point =Yes
  3. Plain cutting edge. =Yes
It only meets 2 of the criteria .

Others may disagree though.
 
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End of the day if your're severely lacking in intelligence to want to go out and stab someone or something a screwdriver would do the job so where does it end?
 
I seem to remember a few years back that a yob was slashing tyres with a swiss army knife but that was OK because the knife was legal. When he was challenged by a man with a hammer he killed him in self defence and got away with it.

I know this is not really relevant but just saying that it will still be possible to kill someone with a legal knife.
 
PaulHarr said:
I seem to remember a few years back that a yob was slashing tyres with a swiss army knife but that was OK because the knife was legal. When he was challenged by a man with a hammer he killed him in self defence and got away with it.

I know this is not really relevant but just saying that it will still be possible to kill someone with a legal knife.
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In all seriousness, I'd imagine a pair of chopsticks, or a wooden spatula, in the right hands, would be just as lethal

I think it's the image / hype around the zombie type knives they're trying to ban, that's as important as the item itself

Personally I can't imagine there being any less trauma, losing an arm to a standard army surplus machete, than there would be from a tool with holes in the blade, any length of serration, or ay design on the item itself

In my opinion they'd be better spending a bit less time on the offensive tool, and spend more time on the tools that use them offensively
Like many laws, they just bring in, they'll eventually end up criminalising otherwise innocent folk
There'll be some bloke somewhere, sat gaming on his PC, in his pants, with a few of these hung up on his bedsit wall
The only offensive thing he's have ever done, is avoid the soap and water a bit too often, yet if he's found in possession, he'll suffer the same fate as any aspiring gang member
 
A knife doesn't kill, it's the idiot holding it.

As an ex chef I have knives that will easily cut through bone or inflict a killing blow.

The difference is I don't carry a boning knife around looking to stab someone.

It's time the penalties were much much harder for knife crime and police stop and search powers enforced at any time on anyone who they feel the need to search. It's the namby pamby way the streets are policed for fear of offending anyone based on how they look. Stop worrying about offending potential offenders and worry about potential VICTIMS
 
Unfortunately with our plod and the way seem to want interpret the law one can be arrested for something completely innocent. I always carry a pocket knife and I have never had the inclination to try and kill someone. I was on a job a last winter, had the van parked outside a house, just got down from the tree I was trimming walked to the van and the police turned up, conversation went like this
"Hello sir, we have reports that you have been brandishing an offensive weapon",
I looked at them thinking this could be candid camera and his next sentence was a stunner,
"Do you have anything that could be deemed as such"?
"Look in the back of the van dummy, i'm an Arborist"
"Whats that"
"Tree Surgeon"
"Oh, is that a knife strapped to you leg"?
"No it's a saw"
"Do you mind removing it"?
The conversation went on to the point I started laughing, and pointed out that maybe someone just might be taking the p++s, he actually said to me try and leave the sharp stuff in the van. Unbelievable, the other copper just smiled and said sorry to bother you. When things get banned and the police are acting the way they do it makes me wonder what it will be like in a few years.
 
I've been looking at my bread knives and wondering if they are legal.
Both over 8" long, one has a distinctly pointy end, no holes.

Apparently not a zombie knife because it's fully serrated. It doesn't have any plain cutting edge so fails on point 3. so the extra qualifiying points don't apply.

A mix of plain edge and serration is bad, unless than 2 inches near the handle, but the entire blade serrated is fine?

Didn't think this very clear from the legal description.
 
CJM said:
Perhaps someone can explain how an additional hole makes a knife more dangerous?

I suspect the only zoombies about today are in Westminister?
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Usual desk jocky balls up, as per the previous "ban" on "curved blades" which in effect has been neatly side stepped by the usual far east tat makers to "comply" with the news regs, essentially you can still buy exactly the same devices, but now they are "made by tradional means" ie. when the ban was mooted all the real old Jap sword lot kicked off, so now cheapo blades are hit a few times with a hammer so they are "legal".

So under £100 for a "handmade traditional blade"............yeah, O.K. :rolleyes:

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As per the BASC link, the neds will just by normal machetes or Pangas or all the other non banned stuff, if wanting a big blade, and "normal" or even cooks knives if wanting something smaller and 100% zero difference in crime figures will happen.

ATB, Ed
 
RitchiePew said:
I've been looking at my bread knives and wondering if they are legal.
Both over 8" long, one has a distinctly pointy end, no holes.

Apparently not a zombie knife because it's fully serrated. It doesn't have any plain cutting edge so fails on point 3. so the extra qualifiying points don't apply.

A mix of plain edge and serration is bad, unless than 2 inches near the handle, but the entire blade serrated is fine?

Didn't think this very clear from the legal description.
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Traditional bread knives will be fine... they don't meet the criteria.
 
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