This really should be one of the biggest stories in modern history...

[J Spinola.]

I'm not for one minute suggesting that we're alone in the Universe and never have suggested or inferred any such thing. In fact whenever this or a similar topic has been posted on here i've always maintained the opposite view i.e that it's highly unlikely that we're alone in the Universe. If you've read any of my previous posts when this topic has been mentioned you will see that is the case, but perhaps you haven't.
There's almost certainly other life forms somewhere in the Universe and it may have developed along the same lines as us or it may not. Even if it has it may not be as advanced as us or it may be more advanced.
It's just that whenever this topic, aliens, ufos' or life somewhere else in the Universe there's seems to be a presumption that it's far more advanced/sophisticated than us which they may not be. That they're travelling around the cosmos in spacecrafts that can travel at the speed of light or even faster, if that is even possible which according to Einstein's theory of relativity isn't possible
But perhaps some on here know better than dear old Albert.
As i've said sub-atomic particles, protons electrons neutrons, neutrinos, quarks may be able to but as for physical/tangible objects i've yet to be convinced and shall maintain my scepticism to say the least.

If you are abreast of scientific advances then I'm sure you have read it peer revewied documents that were published in the New Scientist on the data from the James Web telescope.
This new data thrusts back the big bang theory and even calls it to question, because at heart Science is eternal questioning and upgrading with new data.
It is not a religion as you are treating it, indeed Einsteins equations have severed us well but for example Donald D Hoffman in his book, "The Case Against Reality" postulates theory that would beg to differ. The theory of ftl is just that, a theory. Science fiction becomes science fact every day, keeping an open mind enter got the human race to where it is today and clinging to scientific evidence and claiming we have reached the end of the line is the same thinking that burnt people at the steak for claiming the earth was not the centre of the universe.
IMHO.
End of line.

 

[Lee71]

Patination on the surface would just determine how long and where the rock/stone has been exposed to the elements not necessarily when the carving/sculpting took place.

What would be the point of carbon dating the rock itself, its obviously the patina they date.

 

[Patrick]

If you are abreast of scientific advances then I'm sure you have read it peer revewied documents that were published in the New Scientist on the data from the James Web telescope.
This new data thrusts back the big bang theory and even calls it to question, because at heart Science is eternal questioning and upgrading with new data.
It is not a religion as you are treating it, indeed Einsteins equations have severed us well but for example Donald D Hoffman in his book, "The Case Against Reality" postulates theory that would beg to differ. The theory of ftl is just that, a theory. Science fiction becomes science fact every day, keeping an open mind enter got the human race to where it is today and clinging to scientific evidence and claiming we have reached the end of the line is the same thinking that burnt people at the steak for claiming the earth was not the centre of the universe.
IMHO.
End of line.

Sorry but explain to me how i'm treating it as a religion. It was you who brought religion into it in your post #382

I have studied the Vedas in depth and other theological aspects that touch on this particular area and it goes a great deal further than "thunder and lightning".
Also mentioned in Gnostic script and parts of the bible that King James and others removed as they sought fit.

As i've previously said in my reply religion/theology and science are in many or most cases incompatible bed fellows.
We may find as time progresses that Einstein's theories weren't exactly 100% correct but as you say yourself "they've served us well" so they can't be that far off the mark. If his theories are largely wrong that would be the case.
If E=Mc2 wasn't correct the atomic bomb wouldn't have worked.
That's all i have to say on the matter.

 

[Patrick]

What would be the point of carbon dating the rock itself, its obviously the patina they date.

Patination on an objects surface is caused by how long an object has been exposed to atmospheric conditions so the patina on that rock's/stones will simply indicate how long it's been exposed to the elements.
Where the carving/sculpting on the stone has taken place the condition of the stone's surface there will give some indication of when that was carried out.
Carbon dating the stone will tell how old the stone actually is and whether it is actually 3000 years old, older or younger.
Comparing all three i.e the age of the stone ,the surface patination and the surface of the stone where it has been carved/sculpted will see if they correlate.
I have nothing more to say on the matter as we seem to be going round in circles.

 

[Ste Hughes]

You can't carbon date a rock, I don't know what you're all arguing about.

You can only carbon date organic material.

Carbon dating the stone will tell how old the stone actually is and whether it is actually 3000 years old, older or younger.
Comparing all three i.e the age of the stone ,the surface patination and the surface of the stone where it has been carved/sculpted will see if they correlate.

How would they correlate? That rock would just be sat there for millions of years before someone came along and carved a thing into it. It's not like rocks are made then immediately sculpted.

 

[Lee71]

You can't carbon date a rock, I don't know what you're all arguing about.

You can only carbon date organic material.

How would they correlate? That rock would just be sat there for millions of years before someone came along and carved a thing into it. It's not like rocks are made then immediately sculpted.

 

[1260engineer]

Hardly conclusive proof of aliens, extra terrestrials or a spacecraft aeons ago.
The stone/rock or whatever the material is may be 3000 years old but is doesn't mean that what was carved into it is.
That could have been done at any time.
Show that to any eminent scientist in the fields of anthropology, astronomy. astrobiology, xenology and say that's proof of aliens visiting Earth or someone from an ancient civilisation sitting in what appears to be some form of spacecraft and they'd probably laugh in your face.

Dident they also laugh when someone certain dinosaurs had feathers . i just hope im around . if someone puts there hands up a says ..yep weve been telling porkies since the 40's and yes they have been visiting for thousands of years.
Its one of them things that you are either open minded enough to think yep any thing is possible or just be a sheep . . since the late 90's when i first stared doing what i do . me i like to stand on the outside of the box now . things i though were just fictional... i had to rewrite nearly half of what i was taught and told was carved in stone .
there is what we know and what the other circle knows .

 

[Ste Hughes]

Egyptian Hieroglyphs found in the Temple of Seti

 

[Deguello]

Before commencing with translation,
I gave it a quick skim and quickly noticed the story was half cracked..

 

[1260engineer]

Egyptian Hieroglyphs found in the Temple of Seti

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Seen them . thought it was a joke. has me beat .
This is my favorite head scratcher .
The Baalbek wall .

Now get it 7 meters up a wall

I think theres alot that went on back pre history that we have no idea about . probably earth civilization's mk 1 . I find this stuff very interesting.

 

[Ste Hughes]

Seen them . thought it was a joke. has me beat .
This is my favorite head scratcher .
The Baalbek wall .
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Now get it 7 meters up a wall
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I think theres alot that went on back pre history that we have no idea about . probably earth civilization's mk 1 . I find this stuff very interesting.

Egypt could cut/drill granite 5000 years ago faster than we can in 2023:

Granite vases have also been recovered from Egypt that are within 1 thou of being perfectly round, but apparently it was all done with copper chisels and sand so problem solved

 

[1260engineer]

Egypt could cut/drill granite 5000 years ago faster than we can in 2023:

Granite vases have also been recovered from Egypt that are within 1 thou of being perfectly round, but apparently it was all done with copper chisels and sand so problem solved

We tryed a sand saw and we added a motor to it . 4 hours and we only just scratch the surface . they had a lot of time in there hands .
the H blocks is another one . thousands of years old . total precision. like they have been cut with a laser .

 

[Lee71]

We tryed a sand saw and we added a motor to it . 4 hours and we only just scratch the surface . they had a lot of time in there hands .
the H blocks is another one . thousands of years old . total precision. like they have been cut with a laser .

And with dovetail joints, according to what I was watching yesterday they were saying they could have been doors.

 

[1260engineer]

And with dovetail joints, according to what I was watching yesterday they were saying they could have been doors.

The precision on some of the stuff is just . mad . plus it from miles away . i think thats the one they had to haul the rocks 1200 feet up a mountain on to the plateau

 

[Wurzel1]

I’ve mentioned it before but reading about the dogon 5 tribe was very interesting, I seem to be the only one but all of this latest news has creeped me out hugely. I may only half believe it if it’s announced a hoax but it would certainly help me sleep better

 

[CazLikesGuns]

Egyptian Hieroglyphs found in the Temple of Seti

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Top right. Luke Skywalker's land speeder!

Top, left of the land speeder. Airwolf!

Middle right, under the land speeder. Stingray.

 

[Ste Hughes]

I've never seen this before, another US Navy video.

 

[Deleted bloke]

If these whistleblowers are telling us facts, then they must be disclosing very highly classified information.

This has been going on for decades now, so is it possible these story tellers are just stooges? Naïvely (or otherwise?) being used to subject the masses to the biggest experiment in gaslighting ever?

No actual aliens, no actual evidence, just a constant supply of stories, and eventually the masses will believe.

To what end? I don't know, maybe it's just a good distraction tool.
The politicians are milking us for everything we have, we're destroying our own planet, and WW3 is never too far beyond the horizon.

Never mind all that, this guy's telling us about aliens. Or, somebody died on Eastenders, or never ending Youtube Shorts.

We're suckers for a good distraction, and aliens is right up there with the best of them.

The weekend I took the time to listen to the interview with the american UFO whistle blower
He spoke a lot of words but didn't say that there was aliens or give any facts, not one,
I invite any of you if you have a quiet time to ACTUALLY listen to his answers and explanation, he doesn't whistle blow any facts or actually say there are alien craft he gives speculation or hearsay conversation, very clever answers
All that let's him down is his uncomfortable body language.

 

[terry1001]

The weekend I took the time to listen to the interview with the american UFO whistle blower
He spoke a lot of words but didn't say that there was aliens or give any facts, not one,
I invite any of you if you have a quiet time to ACTUALLY listen to his answers and explanation, he doesn't whistle blow any facts or actually say there are alien craft he gives speculation or hearsay conversation, very clever answers
All that let's him down is his uncomfortable body language.

This is what is commonly the basis for what can commonly be labelled as conspiracy theories. Insignificant trivia and baseless headline grabbing tales, such as abduction, are cleverly woven into a major (non) story with inconsistencies explained as government cover ups.
Bigfoot is one example, a mythical creature which has been hunted by self styled experts and , with all the sophisticated gear they use what evidence have they collected, nothing more than a few blurry images and some forest sounds. Why are there no remains ever found especially considering the amount of hunting (with guns) that takes place and the traffic?
Just because a “whistleblower “ has good credentials doesn’t mean that he can’t spin a fairy story to entertain the public and no doubt earn a decent sum for tv appearances etc.

 

[CazLikesGuns]

This is what is commonly the basis for what can commonly be labelled as conspiracy theories. Insignificant trivia and baseless headline grabbing tales, such as abduction, are cleverly woven into a major (non) story with inconsistencies explained as government cover ups.
Bigfoot is one example, a mythical creature which has been hunted by self styled experts and , with all the sophisticated gear they use what evidence have they collected, nothing more than a few blurry images and some forest sounds. Why are there no remains ever found especially considering the amount of hunting (with guns) that takes place and the traffic?
Just because a “whistleblower “ has good credentials doesn’t mean that he can’t spin a fairy story to entertain the public and no doubt earn a decent sum for tv appearances etc.

It makes me laugh how many comments on You Tube are about people saying "YES! I saw a flying saucer and can tell you they exist" yet theres still no great videos or photos from Joe Public, ever.