Thanks Harvey, I’ve replied.
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HW100x. What a let down after all the hype.
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Thanks Harvey, I’ve replied.
I agree with the 99 and 30, I’ve never owned either, but worked on a fair few of the former. A simple design change would sort it out.
My HW110 was fine and you hear less reports of power dropping now. All my HW100’s have been fine and I’m very impressed with the X.
Randomone
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That was my first thought when reading that.
I'm as far from an expert as could be but, to my limited knowledge, IF they aren't removing the hammer AT when they work on them, then how can they possibly be balancing it correctly?
zogg364
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All my 100's were all faultless, just spoke to a friend of mine who is an RFD out of pure curiosity and he says they have sent a good few back now and was less than complimentary
But it's not uncommon with new models to have teething problems
But it's not uncommon with new models to have teething problems
One more job
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I bought the walnut 100s last year and it’s fantastic! The walnut is lovely
Will have a look at what stock options are available when I’m ready to buy the 100x and make a decision then but walnut or laminate, they both look great!
One more job
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TBF to Weihrauch, I have bought both the 110 & 100s in the last 18 months and both have been top drawer! I know there were some issues with the 110 when it first came out but I am glad I decided to purchase one anyway, both have exceeded my expectations 
It is always a chance you take with a new designed rifle that there may be teething problems, hopefully these will be sorted on the 100x before I buy one ( if indeed there are problems).
Springer wise with Weihrauch, I have not had the problems reported by some with any of the rifles I have owned over the years, 35, 95,97, 98, 99 only troublesome rifle I have had is the 57! And even that I got shooting well eventually, however I could not recommend the 57 to anyone as it takes to much effort to get good results.
It is always a chance you take with a new designed rifle that there may be teething problems, hopefully these will be sorted on the 100x before I buy one ( if indeed there are problems).
Springer wise with Weihrauch, I have not had the problems reported by some with any of the rifles I have owned over the years, 35, 95,97, 98, 99 only troublesome rifle I have had is the 57! And even that I got shooting well eventually, however I could not recommend the 57 to anyone as it takes to much effort to get good results.
Does seem to be a bit of a stretch by the OP to slate the new HW100X (very publicly) without even having owned or significantly used it!
You can't really tell that much just by holding one in a shop TBH?
Much more valuable to the community IMHO is a genuine review, by an actual owner, who has used one for a while, or by someone who has actually shot one at the very least!
I've seen one or two negative comments, but my personal experience thus far is that most people seem to be happy with the 100X. I know a couple of people who own one too and they are happy.
My own experience with Weihrauch is that all mine (many) have been of the highest quality and I still own several.
NB: I openly admit to being a Weihrauch fanboy, but I also own and admit to being an Air Arms fanboy and a Kral fanboy and a Cometa/Hatsan fanboy, and a Ratworks (Apex Guns) fanboy, and a SMK CP2 fanboy, and a Umarex fanboy, etc, cos they are all guns that I've owned and had positive experiences with, so.....
You can't really tell that much just by holding one in a shop TBH?
Much more valuable to the community IMHO is a genuine review, by an actual owner, who has used one for a while, or by someone who has actually shot one at the very least!
I've seen one or two negative comments, but my personal experience thus far is that most people seem to be happy with the 100X. I know a couple of people who own one too and they are happy.
My own experience with Weihrauch is that all mine (many) have been of the highest quality and I still own several.
NB: I openly admit to being a Weihrauch fanboy, but I also own and admit to being an Air Arms fanboy and a Kral fanboy and a Cometa/Hatsan fanboy, and a Ratworks (Apex Guns) fanboy, and a SMK CP2 fanboy, and a Umarex fanboy, etc, cos they are all guns that I've owned and had positive experiences with, so.....
Varminter
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They can’t, they’ll just reduce reg pressure until they’re legal (with a mid weight pellet) and call it job done. Great work on a £1,400 rifle
I’ll never buy a new high-end gun again.
jukibom
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Here's one:
I've had a 100X since December, it's been a huge pain in my arse to the point where I can strip it down to its constituent parts blindfolded using only a teaspoon
It's ridiculously consistent with cometa exacts (don't ask me the hows or whys, I know they're just spanish JSBs), I absolutely love it
They can’t, they’ll just reduce reg pressure until they’re legal (with a mid weight pellet) and call it job done. Great work on a £1,400 rifle
I’ll never buy a new high-end gun again.
And how do you know that, have you actually spoken to Hull Cartridge?
I have it on good authority Hull Cartridge set them using Heavy pellets and they adjust the hammer tension, which is exactly what should be done.
Randomone
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They can’t, they’ll just reduce reg pressure until they’re legal (with a mid weight pellet) and call it job done. Great work on a £1,400 rifle
I’ll never buy a new high-end gun again.
TBF, there's nothing wrong with buying a high-end gun but there's plenty wrong with a having a low-end technician work on any price point gun.
I bought a P15 from Pellpax that was gash but wouldn't send it back to them to resolve the issue because I knew it would be either them or SMK who would have been in there "resolving" the issues and I knew that was folly. As I actually wanted it because I knew it would be excellent when the issues were resolved, I got someone who knows what he's doing to deal with it and got back a very nice gun.
I'm lucky, my HW100 KT needed a bit of work when I got it used because the previous owner had some funny ideas.
However, with a bit of a minor rectification from me, it's as good a gun as I've ever used.So much so, I was able to avoid the temptation of the X and I am doubly happy. I've saved money I didn't need to spend and not had the lottery of buying a gun that a number of people do seem to have had issues with. Low shot count is one I've read a number of times, I'm sure.
Randomone
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Not disputing what you are saying here but does that mean they remove the AT, adjust and then put an AT back on again or do they have a way of doing it without removing the AT that Freds In Sheds don't have the tools/ability to do?
Varminter
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Hull will say whatever gets them out of the shit, I’m sure. It’s just about margins and profit.
How are they adjusting hammer tension?
We purchasers have to modify the hammer to make them adjustable, so do they come to HC adjustable, then they set them up and bond them to form the anti-tamper?
My gun was over the limit with one of the readily available .20 pellets (JSB exact 13.73) and too close for comfort with the other (FTT 11.42) straight out of the box. I find it hard to believe some at HC took any time balancing the thing or setting it up with heavy pellets; I suspect one of the heavier .20 pellets would have put it at 13-14 ft/lb at least.
I have to be careful here with what I’m discussing, I’m not sure whether they just take the AT out and adjust it or replace the hammer with one where it can be adjusted the threadloc added. Taking the AT out and then locking it again is a straightforward job, I do many.
Don't intend to own one, i'm on the lookout for a 23/24 kt.22So it’s all you’ve heard, but you haven’t shot one or owned one?
You’re speculating without proof- clearly you haven’t spoken to Hull Cartridge?
Take my word for it, I deal with loads of HW100’s, three in the last week, you don’t need to modify anything on the hammer assembly to be able to adjust it.
Varminter
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@Randomone I don’t object to high end guns full stop, but it seems rare to hear of any airgun which works straight out of the box without fault.
FX, well are FX. Issues reported with HW100’s, HW110 power issues, it’s a known fact that HW100’s come setup too close to or over 12 ft/lb. Blackwolfs snapping and requiring new stocks, top plates the wrong size, wobbly cocking levers etc. Those Edgun things that are only half developed and are a part time job to setup, I could go on…
Guns costing over a grand that go back under warranty or need you to invalidate it to DIY fix, we’re being taken the piss out of. At the end of the day they’re just airguns.
FX, well are FX. Issues reported with HW100’s, HW110 power issues, it’s a known fact that HW100’s come setup too close to or over 12 ft/lb. Blackwolfs snapping and requiring new stocks, top plates the wrong size, wobbly cocking levers etc. Those Edgun things that are only half developed and are a part time job to setup, I could go on…
Guns costing over a grand that go back under warranty or need you to invalidate it to DIY fix, we’re being taken the piss out of. At the end of the day they’re just airguns.
Varminter
Super member
I am, and no.
So if you don’t need to alter anything on the hammer assembly to adjust them, why do we all send them to you or HW100 tuning etc to modify them and make them adjustable?
I bow to your superior knowledge on these things, Andy; not trying to pick a fight, but I don’t think HC really give a shit and they won’t if we all keep sorting known issues because it’s too much hassle to use the warranty.
I said i didn't like the stocks or the noisy actions on them compared to the older ones i've owned, that alone put me off buying one of them
Randomone
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No, I appreciate that. I wasn't asking for site-verboten details, just interested in the general principle of the rectification work they would undertake in terms of what they could do.
