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HIKMICRO 4k and 4k lite LRF Firmware Fix Petition, a show of hands please !

On the Alpex 4k lrf there is a setting to adjust the thickness of the reticles. In the zeroing menu there is a section named "thickness". This was added as part of the last firmware update after a number of us had complained about Hikmicro reducing the thickness of the reticle with the previous update. I would assume that that facility would be on the Lite.
 
I can not find it on the Lite, I have just been looking at it again now. Sort of think I must be going bonkers.
In the Ret selection there are the 10 available Ret's, then the option for colours of hairs and middle.
Nowhere can I see an icon to enable Ret thickness.
In Googling, the AI info says there is an option and guides through the button press, even though AI says it is there it is not.
I am on the newest Firmware 6.0 something, when I use Hikmicro sight it doesn't suggest an upgrade
Apparently this option was available in one of the Firmware's but was taken away again n a later one.
If it WAS available, hopefully it will be added in to a newer firmware, if that happens I will be very happy
Seems like it happened with the lrf that you have so just needs enough folks to complain.

When I left my message with Hikmicro they did not say "this is something we are aware of and working on" it was "can you send us a screen shot" of course the Ret looks lovely in the screen shot. Anyway, fingers crossed I will get a good reply. However if they are working away on new product then current product may well be not their priority.
 
Hi mate I've not got the thickness bit either. But can change various setting like center colour and reticle colour.

Iv found the choice of reticles pretty poor. Unless im missing something. Still looking and working out with the manual how to save settings or rather get my head around the setting selection and profiles etc. I've just set up two profiles for two pellets at 26 yards zero for each with my preferred reticle.

Some of the reticles looked the same when cycling theiugh the main menu just plain red crosses. I could remove a top line from the '+' and a few other bits and there was one which when going in to setting was definitely an ffp one as it increased as the image increased in size.

Its a learning process obviously and was impressed with the freeze frame zero I did last night when I mounted it on my gun.

Initially I thought I ran out of space for adjustment (not sure this is even possible onna digital scope!) but I saved it when the aim pojt was still 6 inches lower.... then froze frame again and re zerod as before. The lrf box it slightly high when zoomed in but perfect on most mags I use.

I find the profiles and going through the menu a bit laborious and the wheel slightly stiff but all good

Going to try the ffp reticle at various distances tonight and get out on a permission froday evening or sat morning. Not using balastics yet as chrono not arrived.

Thanks all.
 
Lurker said:
Hi mate I've not got the thickness bit either. But can change various setting like center colour and reticle colour.

Iv found the choice of reticles pretty poor. Unless im missing something. Still looking and working out with the manual how to save settings or rather get my head around the setting selection and profiles etc. I've just set up two profiles for two pellets at 26 yards zero for each with my preferred reticle.

Some of the reticles looked the same when cycling theiugh the main menu just plain red crosses. I could remove a top line from the '+' and a few other bits and there was one which when going in to setting was definitely an ffp one as it increased as the image increased in size.

Its a learning process obviously and was impressed with the freeze frame zero I did last night when I mounted it on my gun.

Initially I thought I ran out of space for adjustment (not sure this is even possible onna digital scope!) but I saved it when the aim pojt was still 6 inches lower.... then froze frame again and re zerod as before. The lrf box it slightly high when zoomed in but perfect on most mags I use.

I find the profiles and going through the menu a bit laborious and the wheel slightly stiff but all good

Going to try the ffp reticle at various distances tonight and get out on a permission froday evening or sat morning. Not using balastics yet as chrono not arrived.

Thanks all.
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AH, will have to run through them all and see if I can find the Ret that acts like FFP, not found one yet but don't think I have tried ALL of them with the zero function. Which Ret seemed to be FFP to you?
Sort of disappointed but pleased to see you don't have the ret thickness function, don't feel like I am going off my rocker now.

Re the LRF box, it is fixed, as in you can not adjust it. Will move when you zero in and out. Sometimes completely out of view, which i suppose is a bit of a pain. The only way to change it so it is in / near the middle is to externally shim the scope. I have rings with MOA adjustment vertically, next time I set it up I am going to try to get the box on the horizontal line. I do have some shim stock so may go as far as to get it in the middle at my zero point and see what happens, just for fun. Don't try don't learn.

I think the concept of these type of scope is fantastic and do understand we are looking at a screen rather than through the scope like a normal one, however if only the Ret was more clear I would be much happier.

Edit, Oh yes, if you can get the Hikmicro sight app to work , I couldnt get it to work on my iphone so have bought a tablet to run it and my natechrono. Setting things up is a bit easier. You still have to use the scope dial and buttons but dont have to peer through the scope all the time.
I have written my own flow charts to take me through the buttons like
Menu, advanced, zeroing, type. To take me to the Rets
Menu, advanced, zeroing, ballistic calculation, parameters. To go to the pellet info screen.
 
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Il have a better look over the weekend and try and get some pics. Il have to work out how to take footage and then upload it !

There are 1 or 2 where the ret is just a large red cross.

When I then edit and customise the big red cross there is an option which has mildot or similar horizontal lines. These are very small but get bigger as the zoom function is used. Hardly worth it when lrf is an option but good fun for plinking or when rangefinding is not an option but you know your mildots and holdovers etc
 
Just been through all of them Lurker and I cant see one that works like FFP
However I dont actually want it to work like FFP as there is no need with the range finding built in
I just want to b able to make the stadia lines thicker so they are easier to see.
I dont want the Ret to obliterate my target by growing as I zoom.
 
Lurker said:
Il have a better look over the weekend and try and get some pics. Il have to work out how to take footage and then upload it !

There are 1 or 2 where the ret is just a large red cross.

When I then edit and customise the big red cross there is an option which has mildot or similar horizontal lines. These are very small but get bigger as the zoom function is used. Hardly worth it when lrf is an option but good fun for plinking or when rangefinding is not an option but you know your mildots and holdovers etc
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Yep, got you, Ret 4 looks like Mil dots. I sort of favour that one a bit as the dots make it seem a bit thicker at 3.5 mag but once you go up to 20 it is as thin looking as all the rest once the dots spread out :-)
 
Baloo said:
Thanks for the downloads FX fan, I had already found the Ret one and had printed the instructions.
I am finding re the settings I am better off jotting down my own flow charts.
Same as with tuning my FX
:)

Looking forward to seeing how you get on Maggsy, if the weather is OK Today I am hoping to do more set up myself.

AS A STOP PRESS

Hikmicro have replied to my message asking about the Ret thin ness. Have asked for screen shots, which obviously make the Ret look GREAT, had a reply to that saying

"Dear Customer,

Thank you for taking time to contact HIKMICRO.

We are very sorry for the inconvenience caused.

If you have already set the thickness to the maximum but still find the crosshair too thin, I will pass on your issue and suggestion. I believe we will further improve the performance of the device in the future."

Maybe there is something I have not found yet? Or a hidden feature? Anyway, will pass on the reply if I get one. Presuming this is not a auto bot replying to me with standard answers.
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Sounds like a standard bot answer, If there is thickness adjustment on the lite I haven't yet found it , although I will suggest it to Elite optical and hopefully get that added for a future firmware update.
 
I was thinking Bot myself too.
Like most stuff, when they give you options instead of letting you say WHAT the problem is.
Anyway, it has been replying the next Day for a couple of Days so see what Tomorrow brings.

A bit surprised there have not been lots of folks mentioning it, if not must just be me, I have often been told I am special.
 
Sorry for the silly question but is there a ‘better’ update to choose from or is there only one?
 
Greylag80 said:
Sorry for the silly question but is there a ‘better’ update to choose from or is there only one?
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As it stands at the moment I dont think you can choose to go to an earlier update.
I think that was another thing that FX Fan was trying to instigate.
Seems there was a point where the stadia size could be altered but it went when another update heppened
OR, folks are just confusing the Lite with the LRF model
 
Had tis reply from Hikmicro this morning. Good thing is that I have had dialog with them.
Bad thing is they don't seem to read things well or do not know the functions of the product well.
In the previous mail they said about if I had already mad the stadia as large as I could.
In this one they are explaining the Lite does not have this function.

"Dear Customer,

Thank you for taking time to contact HIKMICRO.

We are very sorry. After verification, only the ALPEX 4K has an adjustable thickness; the ALPEX 4K Lite indeed does not have the option to adjust thickness.

I have uploaded your video and suggestions to the internal technical department. After evaluation, they will decide whether to improve this issue in the next version update.

Thank you for your feedback, and we apologize for the inconvenience caused.

Thank you."

Can anyone confirm that this WAS a function at some time but has since been deleted?
AI have seen a few comments that it was but wonder if there is confusion between the big brother and the Lite.
 
Very interesting thread, particularly as I was about to swap out a Hik Micro cheetah for another 4k lite - I dont think i'll bother just yet.

My 4k lite fitted on a FAC air hasn't thrown up any problems other than the screen freeze issue. I updated after that kept occuring and didn't notice any change to reticle thickness, so was the update that made the reticle thin another later one?

Edit - Just to clarify when the problem of reticle shift occurs, have the X-Y coordinates change themselves, or do they read the same as inputted?

On the Cheetah there is a way of aligning the range finder box over the IR splash, the box can be moved. I couldn't find any official instructions on how to do this and seem to remember finding the solution from a YouTube video a few years back. I'll post the link if I can find it again, it could well be the same method for adjusting it on the 4k/4k lite. :unsure:
 
If the image is going grey when you close the lens cap with the hole drilled, you must have the image mode on auto, so with the relative lack of light it’s switching into night mode. Put it in manual and select day mode, then you won’t have this issue.
 
OK, thanks, it only go's grey in lower light. During Day it is fine.
My objective of trying the hole thing was to try to make the Ret more visible.
Not sure if it has helped or not, very small difference if anything.
 
Baloo said:
As it stands at the moment I dont think you can choose to go to an earlier update.
I think that was another thing that FX Fan was trying to instigate.
Seems there was a point where the stadia size could be altered but it went when another update heppened
OR, folks are just confusing the Lite with the LRF model
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Your last line is confusing me…….
 
The Alpex LRF model is the big brother to the Lite version.
Which is the one I have and find it difficult to see the Reticle stadia when using in bright daylight.
There is no option to adjust the stadia thickness, however a couple of folks have said it was available on an earlier firmware.

The LRF has the option to adjust the thickness of the stadia.

This is why I wonder if folks are maybe confusing between the 2 saying mine can alter when they actually have the LRF?

I think this explains it, or has confused things more
 
There’s the big Alpex 4K (A50EL) available in LRF and non-LRF models, and the Alpex 4K Lite (A40EL), also available with or without LRF.

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You need to be clear which model you have, otherwise we’re pissing in the wind trying to help you…
 
Sorry, but if you read back through my comments I have stated I think a number of times which model I have.
I am sort of not asking for help, I am following the thread title, loosely, discussing the firmware that could be made better for the lite.
As in adding the ability to alter the thickness of the stadia, which some have commented was an option but not now.

While wondering if those who siad they had Ret size adjustment actually had the more expensive scope and there was a mix up over the adjustable Ret over that.

Also posting the replies I received from Hicmicro in reference to telling them I was having trouble seeing the Ret easily in Sunlight.

Hope this clarifies things a bit?
 
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