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Our club chairman is also an RFD
He was telling another member that the government are looking at various firearms & shotguns with a view to banning or more restrictions, not read or heard anything else about this, anyone else know about it.
 
Not herd anything other than your not allowed to now shoot a 6.5 Creedmore at army ranges --that's the only ban i have herd of lately --Nothing on the Airgun front thankfully
 
how would he know? seems like scare mongering to me
Don’t know, he’s not the kind of guy who goes round scaremongering, but the list of guns he mentioned was big, I certainly haven’t seen any mention and I belong to the Sportsman Association who are normally well informed.
 
Don’t know, he’s not the kind of guy who goes round scaremongering, but the list of guns he mentioned was big, I certainly haven’t seen any mention and I belong to the Sportsman Association who are normally well informed.
and nothing going around online or on the news
 
There was a committee meeting up here after the Skye shootings where things were discussed like two tier pricing and other things .

Firearms leglislation is held by Westminster so this meeting was Scottish only and can only be recommendations which MAY get applied if Westminster agrees.
I have seen little mentioned about many of the things on this meeting since





Full Report here https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/33355/documents/180464/default/
 
Like others I have found nothing about this, with the large variety of firearms it would cover and the number of people affected I would have expected the shooting organisations to be all over it. Next time I see him I will ask.
 
Don’t know, he’s not the kind of guy who goes round scaremongering, but the list of guns he mentioned was big, I certainly haven’t seen any mention and I belong to the Sportsman Association who are normally well informed.
We've got a guy like this at our club, and he's been wrong on a number of occasions. I don't doubt that the powers that be will enjoy restricting things - especially the new Labour government - but the government also has no money and banning types of S1 and S2 guns has massive cost implications, requiring money they just don't have right now. If they do make changes, my guess it'll be things they can do without spending money, which I suspect won't include bans.
 
We've got a guy like this at our club, and he's been wrong on a number of occasions. I don't doubt that the powers that be will enjoy restricting things - especially the new Labour government - but the government also has no money and banning types of S1 and S2 guns has massive cost implications, requiring money they just don't have right now. If they do make changes, my guess it'll be things they can do without spending money, which I suspect won't include bans.
This .

They paid out a fair bit with the MARS and Lever release .



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Ancillary items was Scopes, bipods and others accessories .

If they banned S1 and S2 and HAD to pay out , there is going to be a huge amount of money to find .

Prices they paid for the MARS and Lever Release.


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Have you seen how many Shotguns and Firearms there are in the UK ?


Shotguns In England and Wales

Of the 1,340,452 shotguns covered by a shogun certificate in England and Wales as at 31 March 2023, almost all (over 99%) were section 2 shotguns. Other shotgun types, or those with no type recorded on the NFLMS, accounted for fewer than 1% of shotguns (0.3% and 0.1%, respectively).

Firearms ( rifles , pistols and S1 shotgun)
Of the 615,627 firearms covered by a firearm certificate in England and Wales as at 31 March 2023, the majority (57%) were rifles and 32% were sound moderators. These proportions have remained stable over the last 8 years


Scotland

Weapons covered by shotgun certificates.​

  • There were 131094 shotguns covered by shotgun certificates as at 31 March 2022.

Weapons covered by firearm certificates.​

There were 106681 firearms covered by firearm certificates as at 31 March 2022. Firearms can be categorised as rifles, handguns, muzzle-loading handguns, Section 1 shotguns, sound moderators and other firearm types

Don't forget airguns as they will be tied up in it also .
There is no identifiable number of how many held so it all estimate's .
4 to 6 million (estimated ) in England and Wales and 500.000 (estimated) in Scotland

Then you have all the ones held by the RFD's .

That's a lot of money they will have to find unless they can wriggle out of paying or they give you the tiny fraction of their cost .



Prices they paid for Ancillary items . A fair bit of that list applies to S1 and S2 also and there is 100's of thousands of gun owner's who will be handing in these parts if they have no valid reason to one them anymore .




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they didn't pay for air cartridge guns when they banned them and they are not paying for banned blank firers......pyrodex now needs a licence
 
they didn't pay for air cartridge guns when they banned them and they are not paying for banned blank firers......pyrodex now needs a licence
They did not pay out for air cartridge as they offered an alternative way to own them in the form of licensing . Had there been an outright ban they would have paid out* as they did with other items that have been banned outright as my post above shows.


*unless they could get out of it but they have paid out in pretty much all total bans that I know of.
 
They did not pay out for air cartridge as they offered an alternative way to own them in the form of licensing . Had there been an outright ban they would have paid out* as they did with other items that have been banned outright as my post above shows.


*unless they could get out of it but they have paid out in pretty much all total bans that I know of.
what about air cartridge owners that were refused a fac?
 
what about air cartridge owners that were refused a fac?


The same as people who got refused an SGC cert when licensing came in for them .
They had to hand them in, deactivate them or export them ( In relation to air cartridge ) . I don't agree with the whole farce but it is what it is.
 
"The government has tabled its own amendment to the Crime and Policing Bill at Report Stage, which will remove sound moderators from their current status of Section 1 firearm. This follows the amendment tabled by Lord Brady of Altrincham and prepared by the Countryside Alliance which received wide, cross-party support from peers when it was considered at the previous stage of the Bill".
Good to see movement on this issue in the hope that it will reduce the workload of the licencing authorities
 
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