Who’s Making The Most Innovative Rifles & Pushing Boundaries

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What do you see as the most innovative air gun company or gun of current times. I won’t lie I’m definitely an FX man and happy to spend the money on their rifles and feel they have definitely pushed boundaries in the past few years. But won’t deny quality can be an issue I don’t think that’s a secret.

I love the fact the impact is so versatile with barrel changes within minutes and accessories you can spend a fortune on. Then the Panthera is superb I can not fault it feels like a modern ling range rifle. But I’ve never looked any further than FX so who else is pushing the boundaries.

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Depends what you mean by innovation.
Accuracy and build quality never goes out of fashion.
I'd say anything by Steyr is still near the top of the tree

If you're after looks and gizmos, there are plenty hitting that market
 
Hate or love them FX and Daystate are forerunners in airgun technology, that goes without question. Skout entered the arena with their Epoch which is pretty cutting edge and looking forward to learn more about the Karma RP where the prototype been stacking up trophies lately, coming out end of year i believe with 4 regulators and 2 or 3 plenums...

If all these new tech works or better than trusty old designs is another story altogether.
 
I would like an affordable semi auto, the two options I have seen so far are eye watering money. Otherwise I am happy with my air arms s410.
 
I suppose the "ground breaking" ones might just be the "boring" ones which shoot straight and are reliable day after day after day....

Good quality never goes out of date.

The rest is just frills. . . And sometimes they add enough frills to hide the fact the quality is non-existent.
 
Wing Commander said:
I suppose the "ground breaking" ones might just be the "boring" ones which shoot straight and are reliable day after day after day....

Good quality never goes out of date.

The rest is just frills. . . And sometimes they add enough frills to hide the fact the quality is non-existent.
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So so true!
 
I guess that, as the airgun has existed in some form since the late 16th century, humankind has had quite a lot of time to innovate the optimum means of mechanically compressing gas and releasing it in a controlled fashion.

There are probably two ways in which innovation might go and I wonder which would take precedence. Firstly, there is what might be loosely called the user experience in terms of how a shooter interacts with the gun and how it behaves in their hands. I'm really looking forward to seeing what @GTS_Dan does with his recoiless springer, for instance.

Secondly, there are probably regulatory pressures which will affect all of us. We know that mandatory lead free pellets are only a matter of time. What will the manufacturers do to ensure the accuracy of the guns and pellets of the future? Maybe the next innovation is a reliable lead free pellet, or a gun designed from the ground up to shoot it?

Just my two cents.
 
Nobby_Essex said:
I guess that, as the airgun has existed in some form since the late 16th century, humankind has had quite a lot of time to innovate the optimum means of mechanically compressing gas and releasing it in a controlled fashion.

There are probably two ways in which innovation might go and I wonder which would take precedence. Firstly, there is what might be loosely called the user experience in terms of how a shooter interacts with the gun and how it behaves in their hands. I'm really looking forward to seeing what @GTS_Dan does with his recoiless springer, for instance.

Secondly, there are probably regulatory pressures which will affect all of us. We know that mandatory lead free pellets are only a matter of time. What will the manufacturers do to ensure the accuracy of the guns and pellets of the future? Maybe the next innovation is a reliable lead free pellet, or a gun designed from the ground up to shoot it?

Just my two cents.
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Agreed, I think the gun and pellet manufacturers need to get together to come up with a viable alternative to lead, for both hunting and target shooting disciplines, to date I've not seen any lead free pellets that would pass muster for BR although I have read somewhere that one was ok for hunting in a test(cant remember where, what gun or pellet) , hopefully it will be a 'simple' barrel change and tweak/tune to the action, whether a spring or pcp.
 
For 11 ft lb outdoor performance there's been few significant advances since the first wave of regged PCPs 30 odd years ago. The performance parts of the Steyr rifles haven't really changed in over 20 years. If you have a good quality PCP, working correctly, then it's a question of the right ammunition and barrel cleaning routine.

I have a 1989 NJR100 with the first 'useless' reg and at 30 yards it delivers groups which are the same as those churned out by my Steyr and Walther rifles.
 
I'd agree with the above, and for Air rifles, FX has got to be the favourite to come up with some new "green" pellets.

Surely they could find some alloy, that's easily made from one of the by products of iron or steel making. Sweden are right up there in specialist iron and steel production, clearly the only thing stopping them would be the current unwillingness of prospective customers to pay the price it would have to be.
 
Edgun would be my definitive Company
Quality is outstanding compared to the vast majority if not all competitors ☺️
Just look at the Leshiy and L2 years ahead of anyone in terms of innovation and design
There latest target rifle looks very interesting in design
Ed is constantly looking to improve or better his products where he can 👍

Didn’t do a bad job of having his input in designing this optic also

Just a shame that the British consumer has been left behind 😮
 
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As much as I hate them, FX are the only company out there pushing boundaries.

People bring up daystate..... All they have done is invent a circuit board to fire a solenoid instead of using a hammer and a spring. Big whoop.

Edgun invent some seriously cool stuff too.
 
DaveHF said:
I'd agree with the above, and for Air rifles, FX has got to be the favourite to come up with some new "green" pellets.

Surely they could find some alloy, that's easily made from one of the by products of iron or steel making. Sweden are right up there in specialist iron and steel production, clearly the only thing stopping them would be the current unwillingness of prospective customers to pay the price it would have to be.
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Didn’t Sweden reject the lead ban and (probably their biggest single market) North America has no intention of, so unfortunately I don’t see an incentive for them to produce a green slug. Would be great if someone did but it’s like copper in CF rifle’s especially the 243 you need speed and we all know the sub 12 lacks that greatly
 
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