Ultra SE vs TS

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Hi all and apologies as this is a post owing to my own in abilities. Thanks for the great help to an earlier post considering a Reximex vs a scorpion ts. Heart has prevailed and I have decided on a .22 Ultra. Owing to a lot of copy - paste advertisements on websites I'm a little confused however? There seems to be a lot of love for the SE: Is this the mechanism that is simple and reliable. A lot of TS seems to only be available in the same barrel length, longer cylinder and synthetic stock and is what most RFDs stock so has this replaced the SE? I know the CLX exists but for the budget, way out there and whilst my r12clx was/ is still a great bit of kit to the father in law, fancy a bolt. Thank you
 
Silverhalide said:
The problem with the TS is it’s not as tuneable as the SE. It’s basically a Gamo Phox/Cayote. I did own one previously and didn’t realise
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I had heard there were commonalities but wasn't sure if just being gammo was a bad thing. Was after a genuine BSA barrel given the short length given how waveable these things are which makes them versatile. Thanks Silverhalide
 
Stellacosworth said:
I had heard there were commonalities but wasn't sure if just being gammo was a bad thing. Was after a genuine BSA barrel given the short length given how waveable these things are which makes them versatile. Thanks Silverhalide
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It’s more the internals of the TS, it’s harder to change the cylinder and add a regulator. If you look at the exploded diagram of the BSA Ultra SE vs the Gamo. You'll see everything is inside the cylinder on the Gamo. Having said that, the rifle i had was very accurate with JSB Exact, it wasn't pellet fussy really and it perfomed well as a hunting rifle. I only sold it on because of the bolt action, i opted for a HW110 as the cocking mechanism was easier for my eldest to shoot some targets with.

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On the face of it I thought BSA had marketed one as SE traditional and TS tactical which to a newish shooter seems to be the way
 
The SE is the older model. More seals in the air cylinder and presumably more expensive to have produced. One advantage of the SE being the pressure guage can be read in the underneath of the stock as opposed to looking down the end of the barrel.
Can’t speak as to the reliability of the CLX/TS as I’ve never owned one.
I must say that my old scorpion SE was a absolutely fantastic rifle and I often think about getting another or an ultra SE.
 
captainslow said:
The SE is the older model. More seals in the air cylinder and presumably more expensive to have produced. One advantage of the SE being the pressure guage can be read in the underneath of the stock as opposed to looking down the end of the barrel.
Can’t speak as to the reliability of the CLX/TS as I’ve never owned one.
I must say that my old scorpion SE was a absolutely fantastic rifle and I often think about getting another or an ultra SE.
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Thanks a lot for the feedback. Sounds like a devolution consistent with everything else in life. I posted a wanted in the classifieds but just realised that anyone considering letting go will probably hang on now 😂 Thank you captainslow
 
Both are good rifles and both made in birmingham, the TS has the ultra se trigger unit and not the gamo version.
as said ultra se is more tuneable and a lot of parts can be swapped with other models.
Both perform very well with very flat power curves for a non regged rifle.
 
And thank you for everyone for flagging how long the Scorpion is. Just saw this on yt on big dans
 
tvrgreg said:
Both are good rifles and both made in birmingham, the TS has the ultra se trigger unit and not the gamo version.
as said ultra se is more tuneable and a lot of parts can be swapped with other models.
Both perform very well with very flat power curves for a non regged rifle.
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Thanks Greg 👍
 
The TS may share some parts with other BSA/Gamo rifles but according to the blurb the TS was designed and built in the UK to specifically be a sub 12ftlb rifle.

Without a reg it performs really well in that task, I had a 100 shot string over the chrono giving a 15fps spread.

The Ultra SE is different I get 47 useable shots from mine with 24 or so really close fps wise.

I use both for hunting, the Ultra stunningly accurate for slotting shots through undergrowth and lightweight and short enough for quick changes in direction offhand or good in car handling.

The Scorpion TS is not, it's much more suited to set pieces on targets clamped in bog death grip jaws. It's too long and heavy for woods/offhand work/ or if flexibility needed for in car hunting.

Two different rifles for two different types of shooting.
 
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