'Throwing a spanner in the works' did the trick!

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Don't know exactly why and I know that I tend to lean towards pessimism, but I somehow had the feeling that perhaps, one of the simplest jobs I had to tackle with that rusty Premier : removing the spring guide, might not prove that simple....

Unfortunately, that doubt wasn't unfounded and try as I might, that bl**dy thing just wasn't going to unscrew. Despite several techniques and effort, I was getting nowhere except frustrated. So in true 'Who wants to be a Millionaire?' or to be more relevent, Who wants to remove a Webley spring guide fashion, I decided to phone a friend, well actually, message a couple.....

Steve @Troy.T. told me that his go-to and always successful method, was to stick a piece of snug-fitting steel in his heavyweight quality Record vise, align the steel piece with the slot in the spring guide and turn the entire pistol, to effect removal. Hmmm......well, I don't have anything approaching a decent bench vise (only a Workmate) nor have an appropriately snug-fitting piece of steel to act as removal tool to hand......although I realise that I really should be so prepared.

Pete @flatrajectory that veteran (!) airgun fettler and wearer of esoteric headgear, also reckoned that my main problem was probably not having anything sturdy enough vise-wise, to clamp the pistol in, but did offer some other advice, that just might do the trick. He suggested applying a goodly amount of heat from a hot air gun, sourcing a suitably spring-guide-slot-sized open spanner and giving said spanner a purposeful whack, when thus inserted.

Well, I dutifully set about assembling the components for this adventure, dug out my old B&D Workmate, rummaged around in a tool bag and luckily came up with a spanner that wasn't at all a bad fit within the guide slot, said pistol was clamped as securely as the Workmate would allow and I finally laid my hands on a hot air gun....

That Made in England, Black & Decker H991, was one of three items that I 'inherited' from the garage at my father's house, when he died in 1994. The other two items were his 1986 (rather rusty!) Rover 216 SE, which didn't last for much longer and his Flymo, which I was actually still using until 3 years ago. Anyway, that hitherto untried-by-me heat gun, thankfully still functioned and heated up the guide end of the pistol a treat, the business end of that spanner fitted snugly in the guide slot and my aim was true with the hammer. Glory of glories and as Victor Meldrew might have eloquently put it, "I don't believe it!" I thought, when that damn spring guide actually turned! Amazing......I was so happy and relieved that I danced a little jig around the Workmate. Doesn't take much to lift my spirits these days, does it???

Anyway, that offending part is now out and so are all the remaining bits, so I'm now good-to-go on the restoration. As I type this, the Amazon delivery chap has just knocked to indicate that the paint stripper I ordered yesterday has just arrived (wasn't able to locate some that I thought I had).
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And now the restoration can propely commence. I look forward to seeing the finished pistol, resplendant in it`s new ` rattle can` satin black finish .
Persevrance paid off.
Pete.
 
And now the restoration can propely commence. I look forward to seeing the finished pistol, resplendant in it`s new ` rattle can` satin black finish .
Persevrance paid off.
Pete.
Thanks Pete........don't know whether 'rattle can' satin black will be durable? It's also not the best weather/temperature for successful home spraying. I'm leaning more towards a (non-authentic) gun blue.
 
Well done Stephen. Point of interest, the term 'rattle can' boils my piss. Its an aerosol to us Brits. Sorry to be a pedant. In your opinion would you say it has never been stripped previously.
 
Well done Stephen. Point of interest, the term 'rattle can' boils my piss. Its an aerosol to us Brits. Sorry to be a pedant. In your opinion would you say it has never been stripped previously.
You're not alone, many little things like that are irksome. Personally, I wouldn't know where to start.....
However, as a little taster, people that refer to eBay as : the Bay; the Bay of Evil, Evil Bay etc., ad nauseam. For God's sake, it isn't cool to do so ......just call it eBay! Much simpler and quicker. Anyway.....

I feel quite certain that it hasn't been taken apart previously. That may well have been the major contributing factor with the difficulty in persuading the spring guide into the light of day. Also, I've become accustomed to encountering various quantities of accumulated, sticky black gunge coating the parts, when I get the spring guide, mainspring and piston to emerge from the recesses of the cylinder, in the majority of old Webleys that I've worked on. This one was virtually as dry as the proverbial bone!
 
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You're not alone, many little things like that are irksome. Personally, I wouldn't know where to start.....
However, as a little taster, people that refer to eBay as : the Bay; the Bay of Evil, Evil Bay etc., ad nauseam. For God's sake, it isn't cool to do so ......just call it eBay! Much simpler and quicker. Anyway.....

I feel quite certain that it hasn't been taken apart previously. That may well have been the major contributing factor with the difficulty in persuading the spring guide into the light of day. Also, I've become accustomed to encountering various quantities of accumulated, sticky black gunge coating the parts, when I persuade the spring guide, mainspring and piston to emerge from the recesses of the cylinder, in the majority of old Webleys that I've worked on. This one was virtually as dry as the proverbial bone!
I think the ebay thing is because a lot of forums ban the word ebay for some reason, never understood why.
 
Professional jealousy between different internet platforms I always assumed - the determination not to provide free publicity for a perceived rival. It is not so long back that this forum similarly banned the naughty word "Ebay".
 
Professional jealousy between different internet platforms I always assumed - the determination not to provide free publicity for a perceived rival. It is not so long back that this forum similarly banned the naughty word "Ebay".
Oddly, it's been on here that I've seen those alternatives fairly recently used. Perhaps some people are slow on the uptake that the `'naughty word" is no longer verboten!
 
Well done Stephen. You're on the way...

I had a similar issue with a Junior Mk2 many years ago and gave up. Back then, Webley would do the job for for and I think it only cost me the 2 way postage.

And yes, the reason Ebay is referred to in 'code' is because the word is indeed verbotten on some platforms.
 
Coincidentally John......the only other Webley pistol spring guide removal that's been problematic, was also a Suncorite finished Junior Mk2.....???

That was a great (and very useful!) service provided by Webley wasn't it? Like my dad's Made in England Black & Decker heat gun and my 35 year old (and still going strong) B&D Quattro drill, those days are sadly long gone.....more's the pity.
 
I suspect the issue may be the coating being applied after assembly Stephen and yes, it was indeed a great service provided by Webley at the time. Just think, the pistol would have been decades out of guarantee but they helped anyway.
 
You're probably right John, in that it's the finish-coating-after-assembly process. that's the culprit, as I've never experienced it with any of my blued ones.

On the subject of 'after-sales/out-of-warranty service,' Webley did seem to value their customers.....and their reputation. Sentiments and values that do seem hard to find these days. However, in recent times, I have found the technical support staff at BSA most helpful on several occasions.
 
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