bootneckbob
Super member
This is why subjective opinion is just that.Well that's the first time I've heard a AA HFT500 trigger is not far off an Anschutz trigger
The only thing I can think of is you need to get your Anschutz trigger checked
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ColinD
Super member
Or doesn't know is anotherThis is why subjective opinion is just that.
Cowandchicken
Proactive member
For all the Annie haters and those who have an opinion on them after what you've heard but never had one please keep on spreading the vicious lies. That way the price will drop and I can buy more of them 
bootneckbob
Super member
I'd just like to say I have a HFT Steyr Challenge and a 9015 One and I'll be offereing the 9015 for sale and keeping the Steyr. There's no good reason, the 9015 is more adjustable, more consistent, more expensive but I don't need both when I shoot springers more than PCPs as it is. The Steyr will do me.
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Two rifle triggers can certainly be objectively compared.
You define the parameters, and then compare.
And if the parameters are: adjustment range,
direct or two-shot,
trigger weight,
pre-travel,
pre-travel weight,
post-travel,
etc.
, then the Anschütz trigger simply has the edge. Completely objectively.
You define the parameters, and then compare.
And if the parameters are: adjustment range,
direct or two-shot,
trigger weight,
pre-travel,
pre-travel weight,
post-travel,
etc.
, then the Anschütz trigger simply has the edge. Completely objectively.
bootneckbob
Super member
I don't think there's any doubt the Anschutz has the best trigger, plus it has a proper dry fire system. As I've said already I'm sure, the Steyr is very good, but the Anschutz is just more refined.
ColinD
Super member
But the Steyr has a dry fire system also, what do you mean by a proper dry fire system
Having read through this thread, I’m reminded of Highlander… “There can be only one.”
Given the shooter also forms an integral part of the championship equation, it’s surely a simple case of they’re all as equally capable as the other, in the right hands, and very well fettled.
Interestingly, everything apart from Walther has been mentioned, well… except Hammerli, but that’s got to be a real outsider.
Given the shooter also forms an integral part of the championship equation, it’s surely a simple case of they’re all as equally capable as the other, in the right hands, and very well fettled.
Interestingly, everything apart from Walther has been mentioned, well… except Hammerli, but that’s got to be a real outsider.
bootneckbob
Super member
There's no switch or marking to tell you T or F mode. The way you can dry fire without discharge I've heard isn't recommended for the 16J models. I seem to recall any mention of dry firing the 16J models was removed from the advertising a long time ago. If you fully close the cocking lever after dry firing with it not fully closed, you'll hear a noise on closing. I can't remeber what it is, but that's the bit that isn't 'good' for regular dry firing practice. Conversley, the Anschutz has the 'propper' system where the selector switch is safe but cocking the rifle allows dry firing to take place.
ColinD
Super member
You cock the Steyr the normal way, but don't fully close the bolt, this allows you to dry fire the trigger, without discharging air, then you do the same again if required. At the end of the dry fire you can dry fire with a discharge of air to empty the plenum. My Steyr is 2023 and the instructions that came with it tell you this.
Only time I used the dry fire system more than a few times to check the trigger is when I've been using a Scatt, that's the only benefit I can see on the Anschutz compared to the Steyr
Not knocking Anschutz, I have used them and still have one as my .22 target rifle
Only time I used the dry fire system more than a few times to check the trigger is when I've been using a Scatt, that's the only benefit I can see on the Anschutz compared to the Steyr
Not knocking Anschutz, I have used them and still have one as my .22 target rifle
bootneckbob
Super member
Yeah, it's the discharging of air which technically is why I'm saying it's not proper dry fire system. The 6ftlb pistols have the F and T positions for the cocking lever and it's used in the same way, but it's designed to be closed after firing without the need to fire the air in the plenum. Anyway, it's just an observation and why I said the Anschutz is better and more refined in every area.You cock the Steyr the normal way, but don't fully close the bolt, this allows you to dry fire the trigger, without discharging air, then you do the same again if required. At the end of the dry fire you can dry fire with a discharge of air to empty the plenum. My Steyr is 2023 and the instructions that came with it tell you this.
Only time I used the dry fire system more than a few times to check the trigger is when I've been using a Scatt, that's the only benefit I can see on the Anschutz compared to the Steyr
Not knocking Anschutz, I have used them and still have one as my .22 target rifle
Whether or not you dry fire or not, it can't be argued that top level shooters do as a fundamental part of training.
I was referring to the statement that the AA HFT500 trigger isn't far off from the 9015 trigger.
And that it's always subjective anyway and you can't compare them.
I think both of those are nonsense.
bootneckbob
Super member
Hi, not sure if something has been lost in translation, but I was talking about the Steyr and the Anschutz as that's what the thread is about.
I'm not referring to your post at all.
Realy?
That sounds interesting.
Which exact “latest” models are you referring to?
The action carriers of the 9015 with four screws for the barrel have the same plenum size as the 9003/8002.
Only the regulator creates a slightly larger volume.
As far as I know, there is no difference between the action carriers of the 9015HP and the standard 9015—apart from the printed markings.
Since the brass regulator was introduced, both the 9015 and 9015HP have, to my knowledge, the same plenum, with the only difference being the regulator pressure setting.
Therefore, my question is: Were you referring to a plenum difference due to the action carrier, or due to the regulator?
In the 2020 version, additional holes were added to the action carrier, which distinguished it from the 2002.
bootneckbob
Super member
Yes. The whole rear section of the Steyr can be adjusted or offset, it has sections in it for weights and I think the cheek piece has more adjustment from memory but I could be wrong on that. The butt also has more adjustment. Forward of there the Steyr has an exposed MV adjustment screw, the Club stock covers the 9015s. The pistol grip on the Steyr can be rotated and canted and moved forward and back and comes in different sizes and left and right. Both triggers are adjustable but the Steyr has two rails for fitting the blade so again, a little more adjustable for fit. Forward of the trigger the Steyr HFT hamster is pretty plain and small but it to has the ability to be moved forward the full length of the chassis, raised or lowered (to a little degree standard) and canted. The barrel has a harmonic screw, the 9015 doesn't and it has a Steyr 'stock' stripper.
Rbh my memory is hazy to say the least and I struggle to remember who's done what to these guns / changes from the factory versus aftermarket mods... I believe the OD of the regs were slimmed down from the factory which probably adds a non-trivial amount of plenum volume given how small the original is.
I know some / all of the aftermarket tuning chaps overbore the plenum itself, although I can't remember whether Anschutz have also started doing this now.
So.... not a lot of help really I'm afraid!
Ashes on my head. I had the HFT Hunting in mind.
