Chewy
Active member
There’s a Tau 7 for sale on Guntrader at the minute for £350.
Edit to say it’s not my Tau 7.
Edit to say it’s not my Tau 7.
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Snowpeak PP20 purchased
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Cannot say Tau is top end. Good one but not top
Chewy
Active member
True, but it’s probably an ideal starter pistol. The engineering is a bit agricultural, but solid and simple. Plus it’s CO2 powered so no PCP charging gear to worry about. Let’s face it, unless you’re shooting VERY well it’ll be as accurate in your hands as any of the top pistols will be. And a few years down the road if you do decide to upgrade to something top of the line, you’ll probably loose no money selling the Tau on.
Well, there are some issues in 2025 series. The dry fire mechanism is not hardened, so you can have some problems like this
The same part from 2023 pistol to compare
I can say that the problem was found in pistols sold in Russia. I don't know if there are the same problems in the pistols sold in your country, so be careful.
Bazzatron
Proactive member
I have no idea when my pistol was manufactured, but I have issues with this component, The vibration from dry fire walks the pin out which slowly introduces friction as your cock the level, and eventually causes the gun to fire unexpectedly during dry fire. The slow walking out of the pin is so gradual that it was impossible for me to notice until I became very familiar with the gun.
I've also had an issue with the hammer pre-tension screw walking out that I've addressed with a little purple loctitie.
I think I'm getting to the end of my journey with the PP20, but there doesn't seem to be a great "second pistol" option out there that isn't going whole-hog on one of the big boy "end game" pistols. Still, I'm tinkering with the parts that cause me most issues, and dealing with Snowpeak directly rather than going through SMK has been quite a positive experience.
3d and 4th numbers in serial are the year of manufacturing. 1st and 2d are the number of week if I'm not mistaken
You know, I've got a '23 one that causes no problems. And my results, my score is about the same as I can get with Walther lp300 or FWB p8x - at this moment. But the pp20 is the pistol that I used the most part of my trainings. So I decided to buy a spare pp20 for home training and found that issues I mentioned above. I used the i-net and found out that not only me who have the same problems and all the problems are with these '2025 produced pistols. I think that issue with my '25 pp20 is solved without additional gardening - time will show - at this moment after two months of home training with dry firing the muzzle velocity is same same as I set up. But the time I spent fixing this pistol I could spend somehow else. With my family, for example, or, additional training, may be. That's what I want to say. First of all I couldn't find out why does the muzzle velocity drops and differs significantly from shot to shot. Then a friend of mine who bought the same pistol and faced the same problem found out that the reason is that bad hardened part I've shown on the picture. Then there were several tries to fix it. That was really disappointing
Bazzatron
Proactive member
Given how simple the part is, I wonder if it would bear recreating and hardening? I know there are a lot of machinists and knife makers on the forum that have experience with more practical side of metallurgy.
I reckon I could make the piece, most complex part is the relatively short bend in steel that thick - but hardening is well beyond my current access to tools.
But I get what you're saying about time sunk.
Had a look and my pistol is SN 1722... So might be that I don't share in your particular issue, but I'll investigate more diligently after work.
I reckon I could make the piece, most complex part is the relatively short bend in steel that thick - but hardening is well beyond my current access to tools.
But I get what you're saying about time sunk.
Had a look and my pistol is SN 1722... So might be that I don't share in your particular issue, but I'll investigate more diligently after work.
It's my secondary pistol, so I don't hurry and can make experiments with it ... I decided to try another solution by increasing the contact area of this part and the hammer. Made a small cut with Dremel in the pistol's body and replaced the spring with more stiff one. Also using Dremel I cut a bit and polished that part. It works for now. I think I can use my older pistol if I need to make drawings of that dry firing part.
I think it's ok
And using loctite for screws fixation is normal for this pistol
bobdacrazyman
Well-known member
Good evening, Have you or @Tillygti6 perhaps had a chance to get hands on with both the pp20 and precihole?Wouldn't it just?
From my research it seems the precihole has a much more adjustable trigger and a nice muzzle setup out the box but god that grip is ugly XD
Trying to decide if its worth spending more for the precihole + new grip or cheap out with the pp20
Thanks in advance chaps
fatherjack
Super member
The current Precihole pistol is ugly, but the new PP75 doesn't look bad. I don't know if it's coming to the UK or not though. (Also, the top of that grip is going to need some serious chopping to make it ISSF 2026 compliant.)
bobdacrazyman
Well-known member
i think the vast majority of the ugly look certainly comes from that ambi grip, tillygti6 aka Tillys Gunstocks defiantly did a steller job of making one look amazing, if i do get one id certainly love to commission him for one, there is a printed one and plenty of indian made wood grips but id much rather fund a fellow brit
Found pic from one of tilly's posts while researching
IMHO it will be better to change the rules back than to chop grips
Chewy
Active member
That’s certainly a huge improvement! The original ambi grip really does look awful.
This one also has a regulator
Bazzatron
Proactive member
That moderator looks excellent. Did you fabricate that yourself? Or taken from another pistol?
I keep thinking about experimenting with some muzzle weights, just haven't found any that I think are affordably priced enough that I felt comfortable trying with.
Thanks!
Yes, I draw a model in SOLIDWORKS at home during Christmas holidays and fabricated at work at lunch breaks this week. The muzzle weighs I made in summer for FWB c20, but the first one I made with a mistake: I drilled a hole for barrel 12 mm instead of 13. That 12 mm hole fits perfectly for pp20 or Steyr lp2.
The muzzle brake model is my fantasy with an eye on fwb p8x compensator. I had a piece of aluminum and I wanted to make something out of it.