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Pard night stalker 4k first impressions.

Pelletpinger said:
Lol, funny how it’s took this long for the penny to drop! i distinctly remember saying the same a few years ago when you and Russ were pushing the DS and you were having none of it.
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I bow to your superior insight into all things NV
BTW the new firmware for the Zulus which enhances low light/NV performance only applies to scopes with LRF

Cheers

Bruce
 
Blueroll said:
And I can also say that although I have obviously have not been able to test the NV/IR mode yet, the black & white (night mode/no IR) of the Zulus 5-20 is sharper that the Nightstalker on the equivalent settings.
Perhaps the application of IR will change things.
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The application of IR did not change my opinion/findings.
 
Reasons why I want one:

I want it for a firearm, not an airgun. I prefer the traditional tube look scope over a square block.

Excusing the Star Trek front, I like the fact it has inbuilt IR without having to put an additional unit on. IR will be good enough out for 200m which is all I personally need.

It weighs considerably less than a Hik.

I already own a DS35, so muscle memory is already there. Great eye relief, the round screen I think is very natural to use and prefer it even if giving up FOV. Will more than likely be scanning with a thermal first.

Doesn’t have to be the best day or night image. The main use (but not exclusively) will be for dusk shooting within legal hours. Any electro-scope will best a German 56mm objective conventional scope at this hour of the day.

So why it might not be the best in any area, serves me for its intended purpose.

I also don’t want to spend mega money, because the way tech is going….. it will be outclassed and redundant in 6months - 2years before the next best thing comes along.
 
mealiejimmie said:
So are we saying the Zulus is all round better than the Nightstalker?
Are there any areas where the Nightstalker is better - such as eye relief

Cheers

Bruce
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Yes in my opinion the image is better all round in the Zulus. The Nightstalker is fine and indeed does have more eye relief, so would be better for heavy recoiling rifle for Boar etc and indeed some prefer the more traditional scope platform and for those that do the Alpex 4k has a way better image at day/low light and NV. But the Alpex is a much heavier unit with its internal batteries and I guess will need to be renewed at some stage.
 
Blueroll said:
Yes in my opinion the image is better all round in the Zulus. The Nightstalker is fine and indeed does have more eye relief, so would be better for heavy recoiling rifle for Boar etc and indeed some prefer the more traditional scope platform and for those that do the Alpex 4k has a way better image at day/low light and NV. But the Alpex is a much heavier unit with its internal batteries and I guess will need to be renewed at some stage.
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Good to hear. At twilight (the magic hour) and night doesn't seem be to much will touch the Hik 4k. Yeah it's heavy, but so are most of us lugging it around😂
 
mealiejimmie said:
So are we saying the Zulus is all round better than the Nightstalker?
Are there any areas where the Nightstalker is better - such as eye relief

Cheers

Bruce
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Did some side by side testing of the Nightstalker against my Zulus 5-20R (DNT now with the firmware update) last night.
The DNT has a much better NV image (and day) and although it is from memory I can`t see how there has been much improvement of the Nightstalker over the DS35. Although it is a lot lighter Pard will really have to up their game if they want to compete with the Alpex 4k.
 
Blueroll said:
Did some side by side testing of the Nightstalker against my Zulus 5-20R (DNT now with the firmware update) last night.
The DNT has a much better NV image (and day) and although it is from memory I can`t see how there has been much improvement of the Nightstalker over the DS35. Although it is a lot lighter Pard will really have to up their game if they want to compete with the Alpex 4k.
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You returning it then??
 
From the yt evidence I’ve seen so far I don’t think il be getting one over my ds ..

Bearing in mind I’m a sub 12 ratter so 60 yds max is all I need … and if I need an extra ir light vcsel boost I just switch on the tl3 .

Also the ds has x4 to x8 zoom which is more useful than the night stalker which starts at x5.6 then x11.2 then x20 something which is far too much for sub 12 .
I do like the directional ir on the stalker
Maybe this would be a good upgrade for powder burners but for airgun ranges I don’t see much in it between the 2 ..
 
 
.. or if you want the 50mm
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Honestly I haven’t played around with it too much. My staking was cancelled but hope to get out at the end of the month for actual field use.

I’ve zero’ed it. Set it all up and had a small tinker. But having a DS35 it’s really identical so my urge to have an in-depth play has been lacking.

I’ve noticed there is a small amount of LRF lag compared with my DS35 but hope that can be resolved in a future firmware update. It still works and is accurate. Just slower to ping.

I knew what I was getting myself into when I purchased the scope and knew all the pros and cons.

It’s better than the DS35 but I wouldn’t say night and day better. But maybe I haven’t played around side by side as much as I should have. It having the same screen resolution, but different sensor. You don’t get an instant image pop saying wow this is different, but certainly noticeable when using the digital zoom.

Was a breeze to set up and zero of course. I’m happy with it. But until I’ve used it more on quarry / in the field I’ll hold out on giving any in-depth impressions.

But as mentioned in a previous post, I bought the 4K NS not because it had the best day / night time image. But I liked the: cheaper price, significantly lighter weight, inbuilt IR, eye relief, changeable battery, having previous DS35 muscle memory etc

*To add, I’ve only used it during the day. I haven’t played with the IR at night to compare my 850LED vs 930 vcsel
 
I had the ds35 and have ordered the 4K nightstaker today. I was out on he weekend and at 50 yards it’s just not clear enough for paper punching, fingers crossed this 4K will have more clarity and better zoom
 
Mattjb said:
I had the ds35 and have ordered the 4K nightstaker today. I was out on he weekend and at 50 yards it’s just not clear enough for paper punching, fingers crossed this 4K will have more clarity and better zoom
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That’s exactly why I ditched my DS35 - went Alpex and the clarity is WAY better. But it weighs a bloody tonne and the BC doesn’t take into account angle of shot - which is annoying as I do quite a bit of pesting around barns and shooting in to trees. No sign of an update either. Anyway- think I’ll shift it and get the Zulu multi spec in about 6 months.
 
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