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andypandy345

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Hi all, you may have seen my earlier post about my disappointing day.
The rifle is a Brocock Sniper xr in .177.
I bought this rifle new last Thursday and shot it for the first time last Friday.
140shots from 20Bar which was great.
Lovely to shoot, great feel and trigger etc.
Shot again Wednesday this week and another 100 or so and down to 165bar in the tank.
So refilled today and went to the club.
First shot missed target low, I was aiming at the top of the big splatter targets.
Hitting grass and just sounded flat.
Reg pressure was 100Bar
Tank pressure 210Bar
Sounded like a wet slap when I pulled trigger.
Thought I'd try putting a full mag through to see if it would perk up and it did momentarily only to drop shots from top to bottom over a string of 8shots back to grass whacking again.
It wouldn't register on a FX chronograph v2 either.

So took it back to the shop I purchased it from and they managed to get it firing back up to power although I haven't confirmed this myself yet.
They suspect that the regulator may have been sticky from being unused and in storage since production even though it worked perfectly initially for 250shots.

I'm not totally convinced but all I can do is see how it goes, Brocock do now give a 3 yr warranty so it will get sorted.
Not what you would hope for from kit of this level though.
Has anyone else had any similar experience with their Brococks or any other makes?
Or any ideas or theories, my understanding is limited but I have some understanding of mechanics and basic engineering.
Sorry for the long post
 
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I brought a new rifle a month ago , like you it was fantastic for the first few hundred shot's then lost alot of power, i emailed the shop i got it from and coz i only had it for 7 day's they offered me a full refund or a exchange for another brand new rifle , i decided to exchange for a new rifle and not had any issue's with this one .
 
John79 said:
I brought a new rifle a month ago , like you it was fantastic for the first few hundred shot's then lost alot of power, i emailed the shop i got it from and coz i only had it for 7 day's they offered me a full refund or a exchange for another brand new rifle , i decided to exchange for a new rifle and not had any issue's with this one .
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Was that a new rifle of the same make and model or something different?
And which make and model if you don't mind me asking?
I don't want to name shops good or bad on this post though.
 
I'm seeing a lot of this with the higher end brands, new gun issues.
Faulty regulators, substandard seals that blow almost immediately. Barrels and magazines causing issues.
And it's not just heresy, I've seen more than one club member and more than one rifle by different manufacturers have issues from new.
Is this now a new norm in airgunning???
 
John79 said:
it was an Airmaks krait and it was swapped for another Airmaks krait :) there aftersales was excellent
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If there is good customer service then that is brilliant.
At least the problem gets sorted but should these issues be happening so quickly to begin with?
It makes me question QC by manufacturers now and the cost cutting going on.
 
Typical rubbish regarding UK RFD dealers. The powers that be demand sub 12, the RFD'S charge top dollar put the product is mostly rubbish. If I'm paying up to 2 grand or more for a gun I want it right and not shooting under 11 lb,ft.
 
GGBC1967 said:
Typical rubbish regarding UK RFD dealers. The powers that be demand sub 12, the RFD'S charge top dollar put the product is mostly rubbish. If I'm paying up to 2 grand or more for a gun I want it right and not shooting under 11 lb,ft.
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Shooting right means accurate and consistent, not above 11 ft lbs. '12' being the limit, not a target.

A while back, I owned a John Bowkett 'Blue printed' BSA R10SE and was disappointed that it was only shooting at around 10.8 ft lbs. I queried this with John, and he asked me the following:

1. Is it accurate, and does it hit what you aim at out to the usual airgun distances (he tested and provided a pellet test sheet out to 50 yards if memory serves)
Answer - Yes.
2. Is it consistent across the fill?
Answer - Yes
3. Have you tested it with a number of different pellets, particularly in warm/hot weather?
Answer - No.

This was around February, so still relatively cool. I then set about some further pellet testing and found that it topped out at around 11.2. Testing again in August, when the weather was considerably warmer, saw a figure of around 11.6 with the most efficient pellets.

People often stress about the power output, and ironically, many of us end up dialling down the power to fine-tune velocity for a particular pellet. Of course, if the power is up and down like a yo-yo, then clearly the gun is faulty.
 
GGBC1967 said:
Typical rubbish regarding UK RFD dealers. The powers that be demand sub 12, the RFD'S charge top dollar put the product is mostly rubbish. If I'm paying up to 2 grand or more for a gun I want it right and not shooting under 11 lb,ft.
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Yes unfortunately shooting will always be an expensive sport with RFD charging for their expertise and time.
Like plumbers and electricians I suppose. Historically the lower classes were never intended to take part in shooting sports (until drafted for battle of course)
Let me emphasise though, my rifle wasn't just shooting sub 11ft/lbs it wouldn't register on the chronograph.
 
TR158 said:
Shooting right means accurate and consistent, not above 11 ft lbs. '12' being the limit, not a target.

A while back, I owned a John Bowkett 'Blue printed' BSA R10SE and was disappointed that it was only shooting at around 10.8 ft lbs. I queried this with John, and he asked me the following:

1. Is it accurate, and does it hit what you aim at out to the usual airgun distances (he tested and provided a pellet test sheet out to 50 yards if memory serves)
Answer - Yes.
2. Is it consistent across the fill?
Answer - Yes
3. Have you tested it with a number of different pellets, particularly in warm/hot weather?
Answer - No.

This was around February, so still relatively cool. I then set about some further pellet testing and found that it topped out at around 11.2. Testing again in August, when the weather was considerably warmer, saw a figure of around 11.6 with the most efficient pellets.

People often stress about the power output, and ironically, many of us end up dialling down the power to fine-tune velocity for a particular pellet. Of course, if the power is up and down like a yo-yo, then clearly the gun is faulty.
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I also had a BSA super 10 that had been fiddled with by the man a long time ago and it was brilliant. Consistent shot after shot and grouping brilliantly.
Andy Air Arms S410 runs at about 10.8ft/lbs and is great.
But we shoot through winter and the temperature has a massive effect on the performance and shot counts.
 
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