New HW45 Experience

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After 40+ years of shooting all manner of rifles, and exclusivley rifles, I developed an unexpected urge to get a pistol !!
I can't be bothered with the hassle of refilling PCPs or CO2 guns so its springs or single/multi stroke pneumatics only for me. I also fancied something with a bit of a challenge. A .22 Weihrauch HW45 seemed to fit the bill in all aspects !
With my recently acquired fledgling skills at actually opening up and working on air weapons, my plan was to buy a new HW45 (blackline edition) and to instantly open it up, deburr it, and fit a TBT spring and guides kit and fit a new Ozzy piston seal. With a new HW 45's propensity for dieseling like a truck engine for hundreds of shots, I wanted to clean out all the factory lube and tame it a little with the TBT kit. The original seals are also reputedly always ripped up from new, due to the burrs on the cocking slots.
So bravely (stupidly) I set about opening up a nearly £400 gun without even firing a shot with it, and also to invalidate its warranty (no doubt). There's a couple of decent stripdown videos of the HW45 on Youtube and other writeups, which I will not add to apart from fully endorsing getting some sort of sash clamp or similar to decompress the spring - its a tricksy little job. With the right tools it works well though. Also a high quality hex key set is worth having as there is one 2mm and one 2.5 hex screw underneath the barrel which need removal, and these can be really tight, and easy to strip. A very well fitting hex wrench is useful to avoid a disastrous screw stripping scenario. The Bondhus 7 piece fold up hex wrench set is excellent and also cheap.

I was so keen to take the thing apart that I completely forgot the vital first step of securing the beartrap mechanism in the gun handle area with a safety pin (or similar). Those who have take these apart will know what I'm talking about. Well this idiot forgot it !
I launched into taking the barrel off, then took the compesion tube out. All was going brilliantly, I smugly thought to myself. And then noticed my absolute cock up of forgetting the beartrap securing step. Disaster - I envisaged all my trigger sears now rattling around in a random mess within the pistol, and the painful hours/days/weeks of trying to reassemble them. I instantly stopped and put the comp tube back on (which makes things a bit more"safe" again), got a safety pin into the bar trap mechanism to secure it properly, and paused to assess the damage.
Miraculously I seem to have got away with it. It seems I noticed my mistake soon enough, without turning the pistol upside down etc. The trigger all seems to work as it should. Phewwww !. Huge, huge relief.
Anyway, the spring decompression step worked really well with my brand new sash clamp, the comp tube was deburred, thoroughly cleaned and delubed and the TBT kit was fitted, along with a new Ozzy parachute type piston seal. Bumslide Moly grease was fairly cautiosly applied to critical areas and it was all reassembled. The barrel was cleaned and all was ready to go. I then fitted a Vector Frenzy Red Dot sight as I really struggle with open sights due to my eyesight. I had already got the 13mm to Picatinny adaptor needed for the HW45's weird sized dovetail.
Step forward one day to today and its time to actually fire a pellet through this rand new gun. Unbelievably at the age of 58, my first ever experience of firing an air pistol.
Recoil definitely didn't feel terrible and I soon got it zeroed in at 10m. It's definitley a bit hold-sensitive, but its a springer and I assume that will always be the case. However, I can already see that I'm going to be able to use this thing quite well eventually. I'm really not very good yet but already able to get roughly 2" groupings with a 2 handed hold, standing at 10m. I' think with a bit of practice I should hopefully improve to a satisfactory standard.
Chrono results give 404fps with RWS Superdomes, giving around 5.2 ft lbs. Very pleasing all round. Not a cheap pistol, but it has a heft and a feeling of quality that you cannot ignore. Theres a couple of things that do seem to benefit from attention -mainly the cocking slots in the compression tube, which do ideally need deburring. The cylinder is also just full of grease from the factotry and will greatly benefit from a good clean out and more conservative relube straight away. The original spring and guide combo are also a bit of a handful apparently (although I cannot confirm this as I took them straight out before shooting with it). I will keep them, and will consider trying them out at some point in the future, now that the cyclinder has an appropriate lube job and once I have learned to shoot it a bit better.
I would also like to be able to fit a moderator as there is a bit of a crack to it on firing. Its not a deal-breaker but it is noisier than my rifle (yes, I only have one !) However, the HW45 has no 1/2" thread to accept a silencer or adaptor, so some machining would be necessary. Its probably not something I will prioritise TBH.

Many, many thanks to all those who have posted info, videos, stripdown guides etc about the HW45 online over the years. I could not have done the stripdown or these improvements without your hard work and selfless information sharing. I stand on the shoulders of giants !!
 

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Nice write up. Enjoy your 45. Regards the bear trap mechanism. If you forget to secure it prior to strip down no harm will be caused as the trigger/seat assembly is totally captive in the frame.
 
Nice write up. Enjoy your 45. Regards the bear trap mechanism. If you forget to secure it prior to strip down no harm will be caused as the trigger/seat assembly is totally captive in the frame.
Is this a newish feature ? All the videos and stripdown guides are so insistent about not forgetting to secure it ?
 
i think the best feature of the P1 or HW45 is the ability to change barrels
but before you get all happy there is one i mean two problems the barrel bands screws you well strip the centers out of the hex screws that are made of butter and then adventure begins
several of us have made the grip frame full size on HW75's i just used wood that would be a fun project on the star series HW45s
 
i think the best feature of the P1 or HW45 is the ability to change barrels
but before you get all happy there is one i mean two problems the barrel bands screws you well strip the centers out of the hex screws that are made of butter and then adventure begins
This I have read more than once and its a shame because a .177 barrel is pretty reasonably priced and is tempting. TBH, this pistol is for backyard plinking under 15m only so I'm not going to be doing any serious target shooting with it. I think in the long run a .22 suits me better and makes cans etc respond in a more vigorous manner !
several of us have made the grip frame full size on HW75's i just used wood that would be a fun project on the star series HW45s
Thankfully I seem to find the Blackstar grips very comfortable for the moment. I'll
be working on how to shoot a pistol even vaguely accurately to start with before I start analysing whether I might want a different grip. I just don't know what I'm doing enough to make decisions like that.

Lovely looking pistol, the grip is very nicely finished 👍
THanks. I too think its pretty handsome.

Securing it makes stripping and reassembly much easier. That is the only reason.
Gotcha. I will certainly continue to try and remember to do it each stripdown.
 
You might want to adjust the trigger pull pressure for a lighter load, I've always found the standard setting to heavy for my liking. With a lighter trigger, you might find it easier to achieve higher groups as there is less chance to pull the pistol off target. With practice you will get used to the feel and avoid premature release.

The triggers on the HW45 are excellent with plenty of feel and on par to being match grade.
 
You might want to adjust the trigger pull pressure for a lighter load, I've always found the standard setting to heavy for my liking. With a lighter trigger, you might find it easier to achieve higher groups as there is less chance to pull the pistol off target. With practice you will get used to the feel and avoid premature release.

The triggers on the HW45 are excellent with plenty of feel and on par to being match grade.
Already done. It's a lovely light, reliable trigger now.
 
I have a HW45 Blackstar in .22 a fabulous pistol. Heavy to hold one handed, and lots of recoil but you do get used to it. Very accurate and direct. The grips are very comfortable to hold. You have done a fabulous job with yours and will enjoy shooting it.
 
Thanks guys. It certainly is my currnet "pride and joy". I tried .22 RWS Hobby's through it this morning (chrono'd only) and got around 545fps, for approx 5.2 ft lbs. If they prove accurate (a test for another day) I think they may become my pellet of choice.
 
After 40+ years of shooting all manner of rifles, and exclusivley rifles, I developed an unexpected urge to get a pistol !!
I can't be bothered with the hassle of refilling PCPs or CO2 guns so its springs or single/multi stroke pneumatics only for me. I also fancied something with a bit of a challenge. A .22 Weihrauch HW45 seemed to fit the bill in all aspects !
With my recently acquired fledgling skills at actually opening up and working on air weapons, my plan was to buy a new HW45 (blackline edition) and to instantly open it up, deburr it, and fit a TBT spring and guides kit and fit a new Ozzy piston seal. With a new HW 45's propensity for dieseling like a truck engine for hundreds of shots, I wanted to clean out all the factory lube and tame it a little with the TBT kit. The original seals are also reputedly always ripped up from new, due to the burrs on the cocking slots.
So bravely (stupidly) I set about opening up a nearly £400 gun without even firing a shot with it, and also to invalidate its warranty (no doubt). There's a couple of decent stripdown videos of the HW45 on Youtube and other writeups, which I will not add to apart from fully endorsing getting some sort of sash clamp or similar to decompress the spring - its a tricksy little job. With the right tools it works well though. Also a high quality hex key set is worth having as there is one 2mm and one 2.5 hex screw underneath the barrel which need removal, and these can be really tight, and easy to strip. A very well fitting hex wrench is useful to avoid a disastrous screw stripping scenario. The Bondhus 7 piece fold up hex wrench set is excellent and also cheap.

I was so keen to take the thing apart that I completely forgot the vital first step of securing the beartrap mechanism in the gun handle area with a safety pin (or similar). Those who have take these apart will know what I'm talking about. Well this idiot forgot it !
I launched into taking the barrel off, then took the compesion tube out. All was going brilliantly, I smugly thought to myself. And then noticed my absolute cock up of forgetting the beartrap securing step. Disaster - I envisaged all my trigger sears now rattling around in a random mess within the pistol, and the painful hours/days/weeks of trying to reassemble them. I instantly stopped and put the comp tube back on (which makes things a bit more"safe" again), got a safety pin into the bar trap mechanism to secure it properly, and paused to assess the damage.
Miraculously I seem to have got away with it. It seems I noticed my mistake soon enough, without turning the pistol upside down etc. The trigger all seems to work as it should. Phewwww !. Huge, huge relief.
Anyway, the spring decompression step worked really well with my brand new sash clamp, the comp tube was deburred, thoroughly cleaned and delubed and the TBT kit was fitted, along with a new Ozzy parachute type piston seal. Bumslide Moly grease was fairly cautiosly applied to critical areas and it was all reassembled. The barrel was cleaned and all was ready to go. I then fitted a Vector Frenzy Red Dot sight as I really struggle with open sights due to my eyesight. I had already got the 13mm to Picatinny adaptor needed for the HW45's weird sized dovetail.
Step forward one day to today and its time to actually fire a pellet through this rand new gun. Unbelievably at the age of 58, my first ever experience of firing an air pistol.
Recoil definitely didn't feel terrible and I soon got it zeroed in at 10m. It's definitley a bit hold-sensitive, but its a springer and I assume that will always be the case. However, I can already see that I'm going to be able to use this thing quite well eventually. I'm really not very good yet but already able to get roughly 2" groupings with a 2 handed hold, standing at 10m. I' think with a bit of practice I should hopefully improve to a satisfactory standard.
Chrono results give 404fps with RWS Superdomes, giving around 5.2 ft lbs. Very pleasing all round. Not a cheap pistol, but it has a heft and a feeling of quality that you cannot ignore. Theres a couple of things that do seem to benefit from attention -mainly the cocking slots in the compression tube, which do ideally need deburring. The cylinder is also just full of grease from the factotry and will greatly benefit from a good clean out and more conservative relube straight away. The original spring and guide combo are also a bit of a handful apparently (although I cannot confirm this as I took them straight out before shooting with it). I will keep them, and will consider trying them out at some point in the future, now that the cyclinder has an appropriate lube job and once I have learned to shoot it a bit better.
I would also like to be able to fit a moderator as there is a bit of a crack to it on firing. Its not a deal-breaker but it is noisier than my rifle (yes, I only have one !) However, the HW45 has no 1/2" thread to accept a silencer or adaptor, so some machining would be necessary. Its probably not something I will prioritise TBH.

Many, many thanks to all those who have posted info, videos, stripdown guides etc about the HW45 online over the years. I could not have done the stripdown or these improvements without your hard work and selfless information sharing. I stand on the shoulders of giants !!
Thanks for posting this.......... although I have enough guns, your post now makes me wanting one of these !!!! 😂
New years resolution was no more guns but that leaves me six days to purchase I suppose ?
 
Thanks for posting this.......... although I have enough guns, your post now makes me wanting one of these !!!! 😂
New years resolution was no more guns but that leaves me six days to purchase I suppose ?
It is one of those products which has you holding it in your hands and purring about its feel of quality. You could always use the one in, one out rule ??
 
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