My 597 is dead

Squintykid said:
Couple of pointers...but good enough reason to buy a new gun

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Thanks, I manually cycled 10rds through it and the hammer refused to cock, the guide rods are just loose enough to detect by hand so they're not bent at all, I rolled them on a flat plate to check they were straight as well.
I could go with crouchin66 idea but even if I spend on a whole new trigger mech it might not solve the problem and I can't get registered parts like a bolt anyway.
I only paid £190 for it about 5yrs ago, the Nikko Nighteater on it would fetch half that.
 

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By comparison, for what its worth, I have dealt with quite a few Rugers now, some of which previous owners must have dragged through a ditch or something :ROFLMAO: and after a good clean they just keep on going. Spare parts easily available. Very easy to work on, seemed to have been designed to make them easy to take apart. They get my vote....
 
Redboat01 said:
By comparison, for what its worth, I have dealt with quite a few Rugers now, some of which previous owners must have dragged through a ditch or something :ROFLMAO: and after a good clean they just keep on going. Spare parts easily available. Very easy to work on, seemed to have been designed to make them easy to take apart. They get my vote....
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Totally agree, the only weak point I've seen - and I'd argue even that - is the firing pin spring can need replacing. After that and a thorough clean they just work.

Aftermarket mags can be poo as well, Ruger ones no problem. People also forget the clean the mags.
 
The Bergara BXR steel comes in at £750, how much of a tricked out 10/22 can you get for that?
 
Rich79 said:
The Bergara BXR steel comes in at £750, how much of a tricked out 10/22 can you get for that?
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As usual it depends how deep your pockets are Rich.........

"The price for the receiver unit complete with bolt, recoil guide rod assembly, recoil buffer and tuned trigger unit is £600 Then simply add the cost of your chosen barrel and then the stock and that’s the total for the complete rifle"
 
The BXR is marketed as the factory 10/22 that everyone wants because it has all the usual 10/22 issues ironed out, and i was considering a purchase myself some time ago, but after a bit of research it would appear that they are in fact far from issue free themselves, and can be ammo fussy and have cycling issues like the Rugers.

Thread 'Bergara BXR ?? - opinions please' https://airgunforums.co.uk/threads/bergara-bxr-opinions-please.1266/
 
2506sendero said:
and have cycling issues like the Rugers
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Out of interest, what do you view as the standard cycling issues for a 10/22 (aftermarket mags aside)?

My view of issues with a new/standard 10/22 are as follows:

1) releasing the latch that holds the bolt back is very fiddly. This can be changed for a replacement version for about £15
2) It clatters when cycling - replaceing the roll pin with a delrin equivalent is about £5
3) it doesn't like aftermarket mags, and the 25 round mag is a bit iffy until it has half an empty .22 case put around the plastic pin inside the mag. The 10 round mags are fine
4) after very extensive use or being dropped some of the mags may not work as well or jam on insertion, which can be fixed with a sand down of the mag sides

Thats about all I am aware of... I view these as easily fixable inconveniences on a rifle which is outstanding for the money.
 
Redboat01 said:
Out of interest, what do you view as the standard cycling issues for a 10/22 (aftermarket mags aside)?

My view of issues with a new/standard 10/22 are as follows:

1) releasing the latch that holds the bolt back is very fiddly. This can be changed for a replacement version for about £15
2) It clatters when cycling - replaceing the roll pin with a delrin equivalent is about £5
3) it doesn't like aftermarket mags, and the 25 round mag is a bit iffy until it has half an empty .22 case put around the plastic pin inside the mag. The 10 round mags are fine
4) after very extensive use or being dropped some of the mags may not work as well or jam on insertion, which can be fixed with a sand down of the mag sides

Thats about all I am aware of... I view these as easily fixable inconveniences on a rifle which is outstanding for the money.
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Aside what you've mentioned, some lighter springs, square & face the bolt for better headspace & bed the action - w/ a deeper front barrel retaining lug. My factory gubbins are reworked( at kitchen table) ...now very smooth & a 1 - 1/2 # trigger....far cry from box stock. One can , if wanted, add a rear action retaining pin also.
 
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Redboat01 said:
Out of interest, what do you view as the standard cycling issues for a 10/22 (aftermarket mags aside)?

My view of issues with a new/standard 10/22 are as follows:

1) releasing the latch that holds the bolt back is very fiddly. This can be changed for a replacement version for about £15
2) It clatters when cycling - replaceing the roll pin with a delrin equivalent is about £5
3) it doesn't like aftermarket mags, and the 25 round mag is a bit iffy until it has half an empty .22 case put around the plastic pin inside the mag. The 10 round mags are fine
4) after very extensive use or being dropped some of the mags may not work as well or jam on insertion, which can be fixed with a sand down of the mag sides

Thats about all I am aware of... I view these as easily fixable inconveniences on a rifle which is outstanding for the money.
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Hi RB,
I can only go from the personal experience i had when i owned my only 10/22 (T) rifle some years ago now, and as i have posted a few times previously, it was plagued with feeding/cycling issues from day 1, and as i was doing a lot of vermin control at the time, it just had to go and i went straight back to my trusty 452.
For some reason the first round out of the mag became damaged during feeding (i tried more than one mag) and this usually threw the shot off zero, and it didn't seem to make any difference if i loaded less than 10 rounds in the mag.
I had the barrel off many times but could not find any obvious defects in the chamber or throat area and i just eventually put it down to being a Friday afternoon rifle and got shut.
There are obviously many fine Ruger 10/22's doing the business, but rightly or wrongly, my particular experience has put me off the brand permanently.
 
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Despite my best efforts and a considerable amount of money, owning a 10/22 put me off SA .22lr rifles until I came across the SIG 522 I owned.

SA rf rifles have come a long way and developed significantly since the 10/22 was initiated.

Get a good 10/22 and they are great fun and pretty accurate (my mate has a take down that is a peach) but if you don’t at best you’ll end up with a very average rifle.
 
I hate .22 semi's. Why not get yourself another nice bolt action?

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2506sendero said:
Hi RB,
I can only go from the personal experience i had when i owned my only 10/22 (T) rifle some years ago now, and as i have posted a few times previously, it was plagued with feeding/cycling issues from day 1, and as i was doing a lot of vermin control at the time, it just had to go and i went straight back to my trusty 452.
For some reason the first round out of the mag became damaged during feeding (i tried more than one mag) and this usually threw the shot off zero, and it didn't seem to make any difference if i loaded less than 10 rounds in the mag.
I had the barrel off many times but could not find any obvious defects in the chamber or throat area and i just eventually put it down to being a Friday afternoon rifle and got shut.
There are obviously many fine Ruger 10/22's doing the business, but rightly or wrongly, my particular experience has put me off the brand permanently.
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I understand, that doesnt sound good. Like you say all the brands can have a dodgy rifle. Its just a question of the proportion. I look after quite a few rugers that were bought because they were cheap and hadn't had an easy life. They all just take all the abuse and keep going without issues.

I think I am a fan boy :ROFLMAO:
 
Another small but not insignificant fettle on a 10/ 22 ( should you keep the factory sporter barrel), is , once you bed the action, / deeper barrel retainer block - relieve the top inside of barrel band & let the barrel float...you' ll gain some accuracy.😊 .22 L.R. is 75 yd. gun...need more ?
 
Redboat01 said:
I understand, that doesnt sound good. Like you say all the brands can have a dodgy rifle. Its just a question of the proportion. I look after quite a few rugers that were bought because they were cheap and hadn't had an easy life. They all just take all the abuse and keep going without issues.

I think I am a fan boy :ROFLMAO:
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Had mine since 1975 👍💝💝💝
 
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