Maximum air rifle range UK legal limit

Some of the shooters at Kinver can quite regularly hit a standard 2" knock-down target out to 90+ yards using PCP's and ballistic calculator equipped digital scopes. The wind is the problem with consistency.
Blackbrook has, I understand, targets out to 200 yds so maybe someone who shoots there can give us an idea of what ranges are realistic.
Seeing the loop of the pellets on my .177 guns out at 75 yds, its not suprising any breath of wind plays havoc with accuracy at distance,
 
I have consecutively hit a 40mm target at 70yds, if the wind plays ball.
Best was six on the trot.
TX200 .177
 
ibo7 said:
Why would anyone be more encouraged for airgun bans by that? It's just fun and interesting to see the capabilities of under 12ft lbs
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Playing Devils advocate, I would argue that if 12ft/lbs is capable of hitting stuff at 200 yards then there is likely only a need for a much reduced power limit which would be capable of less distance. I think it also supports the argument for licensing. Which is why I personally am not an advocate for such posts on a shooting forum along with the type of posts" my guns is/was over the limit, how do I reduce it"
John.
 
JLB said:
Playing Devils advocate, I would argue that if 12ft/lbs is capable of hitting stuff at 200 yards then there is likely only a need for a much reduced power limit which would be capable of less distance. I think it also supports the argument for licensing. Which is why I personally am not an advocate for such posts on a shooting forum along with the type of posts" my guns is/was over the limit, how do I reduce it"
John.
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"Hitting stuff" is only one aspect, John...
Hunting is another. Power @ 12 ft lbs is required to maintain power at distance for humane dispatch. If this isn't allowed power wise then the airguns used to keep pests in check on your fair island would be near useless & to govt's dismay they'd need to give everyone a FAC. That, I'm sure would greatly stress the Home Office.
Just playing Devil's Advocate 🙂
 
JLB said:
Playing Devils advocate, I would argue that if 12ft/lbs is capable of hitting stuff at 200 yards then there is likely only a need for a much reduced power limit which would be capable of less distance. I think it also supports the argument for licensing. Which is why I personally am not an advocate for such posts on a shooting forum along with the type of posts" my guns is/was over the limit, how do I reduce it"
John.
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not really because you would be lucky to have 1ftlb of energy left probably not far off the equivalent of you actually throwing the pellet by hand lol at that distance and be hard pushed to see any indent made where it hit, may not even have enough oomph to break paper
 
JLB said:
Playing Devils advocate, I would argue that if 12ft/lbs is capable of hitting stuff at 200 yards then there is likely only a need for a much reduced power limit which would be capable of less distance. I think it also supports the argument for licensing. Which is why I personally am not an advocate for such posts on a shooting forum along with the type of posts" my guns is/was over the limit, how do I reduce it"
John.
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Yes it's capable of hitting something at 200 yards but we all know you couldn't regularly replicate it and it's lost most of it power by the time it gets there. You still require 12ft lbs at the muzzle to keep X amount of power for quarry at 30-40 yards for example.
A 6ft lb pistol could potentially hit something at 200 yards, so could someone argue that should be lowered too?
 
chouchin66 said:
"Hitting stuff" is only one aspect, John...
Hunting is another. Power @ 12 ft lbs is required to maintain power at distance for humane dispatch. If this isn't allowed power wise then the airguns used to keep pests in check on your fair island would be near useless & to govt's dismay they'd need to give everyone a FAC. That, I'm sure would greatly stress the Home Office.
Just playing Devil's Advocate 🙂
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TimD81 said:
not really because you would be lucky to have 1ftlb of energy left probably not far off the equivalent of you actually throwing the pellet by hand lol at that distance and be hard pushed to see any indent made where it hit, may not even have enough oomph to break paper
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ibo7 said:
Yes it's capable of hitting something at 200 yards but we all know you couldn't regularly replicate it and it's lost most of it power by the time it gets there. You still require 12ft lbs at the muzzle to keep X amount of power for quarry at 30-40 yards for example.
A 6ft lb pistol could potentially hit something at 200 yards, so could someone argue that should be lowered too?
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As shooters, yes we all know the logic and ballistics of it. But the anti-brigade and general media tend to not do logic. They will just view them as sniper rifles capable of hitting targets at 200 yards.

John.
 
JLB said:
As shooters, yes we all know the logic and ballistics of it. But the anti-brigade and general media tend to not do logic. They will just view them as sniper rifles capable of hitting targets at 200 yards.

John.
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Yet the anti brigade( of anything) & news media( across the board) are never questioned appropriately nor taken to task in any meaningful way...largely a failure of the " shooting community" ...
Without education & tutledge, there can only be ignorance.
Think about it.
 
Have read somewhere that a .177 has the potential to go 450m. Not seen anything to back that up.
If I can manage to meet up with a friend who has a large enough field might try it out
 
Dudd I said:
Have read somewhere that a .177 has the potential to go 450m. Not seen anything to back that up.
If I can manage to meet up with a friend who has a large enough field might try it out
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Chairgun/ Mero, et al will save you some trouble.🙂 If going anyway though , have some fun " airing it out" @ 100+.👍
 
JLB said:
As shooters, yes we all know the logic and ballistics of it. But the anti-brigade and general media tend to not do logic. They will just view them as sniper rifles capable of hitting targets at 200 yards.

John.
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Very true I do see your point, its just like media/news only saying half a story to stir things up 👍
 
At what range do the pellets stop spinning? Genuinely interested to know. Surely once they stop spinning they just tumble no? Also, at what velocity does the diabolo shape stop being aerodynamic?
Any scientists on here....?
 
Best I ever got was this group at 150 yards freestanding with a 22 99s. Not sur eI could do it anymor,e but find a good gun and practice and its very feasible .

150 group.webp
 
JLB said:
Playing Devils advocate, I would argue that if 12ft/lbs is capable of hitting stuff at 200 yards then there is likely only a need for a much reduced power limit which would be capable of less distance. I think it also supports the argument for licensing. Which is why I personally am not an advocate for such posts on a shooting forum along with the type of posts" my guns is/was over the limit, how do I reduce it"
John.
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Sub 12 can hit stuff at 400 yards although that will be the ground most of the time. But that's roughly the max distance a pellet will travel.
 
Bighit said:
Emma ( Cubley Cat) was going through the side of tin cans at 200ms with a sub12 .177.

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Going through tin cans at 200mt 218yds I would call BS at sub 12 in the real world you would be lucky to see 2ftlb adding in all the usual factors and there would be a lot of cut video before those shots were recorded.
Just because there is video doesn't mean it's genuine. ;)
 
Tricky-Dicky said:
Going through tin cans at 200mt 218yds I would call BS at sub 12 in the real world you would be luck to see 2ftlb adding in all the usual factors and there would be a lot of cut video before those shots were recorded.
Just because there is video doesn't mean it's genuine. ;)
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There will be cuts in the video or it would be a lot longer but unless someone was to try then it MAY be true , BB guns can go through the side of a tin can at 2ftlbs and under I would imagine.
 
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