HW90k Vs HW95k

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I'm contemplating picking up one of the above I get ones a Gas ram and ones a spring but other than that is there much between them? Is one better than the other?

Please help me choose my Christmas present to myself 😄
 
My 97 is an absolute doddle to shoot, very easy, very accurate..✔️

Love my 95k and I’ve know doubt it’s accurate, but try every which way honestly, I haven’t mastered it yet nor wrangled it into submission..

I love it for that reason too, it keeps me thinking and determined, but it is a lot of a head scratcher too!

Don’t mind admitting I’m one of those who hasn’t mastered it, I’m not selling it and I do need to spend some more time on it, it does take the back bench though for that reason, it’s running quite high, perhaps it needs toning down or a fettle..

For that reason bro I’d listen to what the 90 owners say.. I’m still very optimistic with my 95 do still have a crazy notion that a rifle shouldn’t need a fettle straight from the box.. I’ve no doubt that’s what will happen in the future though..
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for that reason maybe consider the 98 too..
 
My father in-law has a 98 I only really use a springer for when I'm roaming in woods... Sloped woods at that... I've used his 98 and thought it was abit of a lump weight wise
 
Danny3522 said:
My father in-law has a 98 I only really use a springer for when I'm roaming in woods... Sloped woods at that... I've used his 98 and thought it was abit of a lump weight wise
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you may have answered your own question with this statement.
The 98 feels like a lightweight - albeit nose heavy, which some prefer, compared to the 90 IMO.
 
Danny3522 said:
but other than that is there much between them? Is one better than the other?
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Yes, there's a hell of a lot of difference in weight between the 2, and i certainly wouldn't be wanting to hump a '90 around "England's green and pleasant land" all day, but apart from the weight, the '90 is just a superb unit that will give you a lot of pleasure, and shoot consistently out of the box, and yes, i've had one in both calibres 😉

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I’ll say though there’s nothing cumbersome or heavy about the 95, it’s fairly slim stock is a pleasure to pick up and carry..
 
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Stephen@ said:
I don’t think the people in this thread know that the Hw90 has a faster, smoother and quieter shot cycle than a springer and weighs less than any Hw77/97 or even a TX200 for that matter.
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But it also requires about 50% more cocking effort for compatible muzzle energy vs a 95. Also has significantly more recoil given the 30mm piston.
 
Dirty Roach said:
But it also requires about 50% more cocking effort for compatible muzzle energy vs a 95. Also has significantly more recoil given the 30mm piston.
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I don’t think the size of the piston determines the amount of recoil the rifle has it’s more to do with the force propelling the piston. Don’t forget if the piston is bigger it displaces more air so less force is required to propel that piston to get the same energy. I can’t comment about it takes 50% more effort to cock the rifle than a 95 because I don’t have one, but it would be interesting to find out what cocking force they both have !
 
Stephen@ said:
I don’t think the size of the piston determines the amount of recoil the rifle has it’s more to do with the force propelling the piston. Don’t forget if the piston is bigger it displaces more air so less force is required to propel that piston to get the same energy. I can’t comment about it takes 50% more effort to cock the rifle than a 95 because I don’t have one, but it would be interesting to find out what cocking force they both have !
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The piston in the 90 is also heavy compared to the 95, by possibly 25-30%.
As with any springer the moving mass will have an effect on perceived recoil.
 
Joe.W6606 said:
The piston in the 90 is also heavy compared to the 95, by possibly 25-30%.
As with any springer the moving mass will have an effect on perceived recoil.
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I doubt that when you consider that a 95 piston has a centre shaft which a 90 does not, then you have the fact that a 95 has a spring as well and all of these moving parts and their mass contribute to the perceived recoil that you mentioned.
 
Stephen@ said:
I doubt that when you consider that a 95 piston has a centre shaft which a 90 does not, then you have the fact that a 95 has a spring as well and all of these moving parts and their mass contribute to the perceived recoil that you mentioned.
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Ok,
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Having set up and compared 2x 95 actions last week, one standard piston (270g ish) and one lightened, (210g ish) I still think the 475g of 90 piston is heavier
 
Joe.W6606 said:
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Having set up and compared 2x 95 actions last week, one standard piston (270g ish) and one lightened, (210g ish) I still think the 475g of 90 piston is heavier
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I don’t disagree with you over just the weight of the piston but you have to take the weight of the spring into account as well, don’t forget all the moving parts have inertia.
 
Joe.W6606 said:
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Having set up and compared 2x 95 actions last week, one standard piston (270g ish) and one lightened, (210g ish) I still think the 475g of 90 piston is heavier
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Just found this post on AGF and they don’t think the 95 recoil is all that either.
 

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Had a 95 couldn't get on with it at all, got a 90 in .22 among others 98/ 97/77/etc love my 90 and different to shoot from a springer , don't lug any of mine about so weight isn't an issue for me as they're all quite weighty
Get a 90 you won't regret it
 
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