HW100 second thoughts

Masterdave said:
So I purchased my HW100 KT laminate a few months ago for work, it probably owes me a good few hundred rats and some other quarry, it's quiet, it's accurate, it's easy to use, but I just don't get anything from it? It's hard to explain but I have no connection to it, it doesn't speak to me. Can't decide if to swap it, sell it, or keep it
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I understand this. Had a few of them in my time and all exceptional. I am an Air Arms man more so now and they differ is areas the hw100 excels in, ie, the trigger, cocking lever and magazines. Yet it is the AA I stick with. As they say, either it’s got it or it hasn’t.
 
I've just bought one and its currently stripped down to its bare noodles awaiting a seal kit. I've never seen as many seals in one rifle.
The regulator has 16 washers arranged in pairs and then fours that would confuse anyone if you didn't take them out in order or watch a few vids. It's the most complicated PCP I've had to reseal but I will say this, its put together like nothing I've ever seen. You think a HW77 or HW80 is brill till you see one of these in bits. Everything bolts together in blocks, trigger block, action block and valve block.
It's outrageously simple the way its put together but outrageously stupid how the air gets from the cylinder to the pellet passing 14 seals along the way. I don't know what to think. We'll see when I shoot her.
 
I purchased a new HW100KT last spring and I've only used it for target shooting.I must admit I was enjoying it until a second hand sporter stock came up for grabs off another member on this forum which I bought and I have to say that it feels better than the thumbhole stock.
 
The HW100 is truly an excellent rifle. . . it is clinically excellent and is yet another triumph of German engineering.

However, the thing which highlights this clinical excellence is the fact that it has been conceived and engineered by people who are highly professional but have absolutely no sense of humour or sense of style.
Basically, they are good at their job but they never smile.

But if the rifle's action can be installed in a "blingy" stock, the love affair can last a lifetime. :love:
 
Wing Commander said:
The HW100 is truly an excellent rifle. . . it is clinically excellent and is yet another triumph of German engineering.

However, the thing which highlights this clinical excellence is the fact that it has been conceived and engineered by people who are highly professional but have absolutely no sense of humour or sense of style.
Basically, they are good at their job but they never smile.

But if the rifle's action can be installed in a "blingy" stock, the love affair can last a lifetime. :love:
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Well put sir!👏😂
 
Personally I've never seen the appeal or owned a laminate stock rifle but that's personal preference. As to the HW 100 I bought one a few years back when I had some cash to treat myself, the 100 has a huge following and reputation so I decided to buy one and see if it lived up to the hype.yes it had great trigger and cooking lever etc but I never really took to it.my other rifle at the time was my Walnut R10(which I still have).in comparison the R10 was lighter,more comfy in handling and to be honest more accurate. For that reason I sold the 100.it was easy due to reputation and the fact I bought it new and it was mint.so really the point is if its something you don't enjoy or yearn to take out, change it for something else I think,
 
Masterdave said:
So I purchased my HW100 KT laminate a few months ago for work, it probably owes me a good few hundred rats and some other quarry, it's quiet, it's accurate, it's easy to use, but I just don't get anything from it? It's hard to explain but I have no connection to it, it doesn't speak to me. Can't decide if to swap it, sell it, or keep it
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If it leaves little impression on you when you’re using it for your job then it’s doing what it should do.
 
Blackmax said:
If it leaves little impression on you when you’re using it for your job then it’s doing what it should do.
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I do agree that it's a great tool, just don't have the love for it I want to have I guess. I'm in no rush to move it on so if it stays I'm happy
 
"No just wanting to get started . i live next to very elderly neighbours so wanted something quiet and being nearly 70 myselfe thought it would be easier not to having to keep cocking a springer"

Absolutely understand. But. Your PCP will require filling. Lugging a cylinder to and from your local dive/gun shop or using a stirrup pump may not appeal either. Maybe you might want a compressor and dive bottle and be independent. After a while and with the correct technique, cocking a springer becomes fairly easy. I am nearly 70 and have an HW97 (underlever springer) and use a stirrup pump to refill my PCPs. Good luck with whatever you decide 👍.
 
nav2022 said:
I've just bought one and its currently stripped down to its bare noodles awaiting a seal kit. I've never seen as many seals in one rifle.
The regulator has 16 washers arranged in pairs and then fours that would confuse anyone if you didn't take them out in order or watch a few vids. It's the most complicated PCP I've had to reseal but I will say this, its put together like nothing I've ever seen. You think a HW77 or HW80 is brill till you see one of these in bits. Everything bolts together in blocks, trigger block, action block and valve block.
It's outrageously simple the way its put together but outrageously stupid how the air gets from the cylinder to the pellet passing 14 seals along the way. I don't know what to think. We'll see when I shoot her.
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I know you'll be impressed when you do get to shoot it but I take it you've never owned an FX Impact then if you think the HW100 has a lot of seals and O rings 🤣
 
Jamex said:
"No just wanting to get started . i live next to very elderly neighbours so wanted something quiet and being nearly 70 myselfe thought it would be easier not to having to keep cocking a springer"

Absolutely understand. But. Your PCP will require filling. Lugging a cylinder to and from your local dive/gun shop or using a stirrup pump may not appeal either. Maybe you might want a compressor and dive bottle and be independent. After a while and with the correct technique, cocking a springer becomes fairly easy. I am nearly 70 and have an HW97 (underlever springer) and use a stirrup pump to refill my PCPs. Good luck with whatever you decide 👍.
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Is the springer noisy ?
 
Jamex said:
"No just wanting to get started . i live next to very elderly neighbours so wanted something quiet and being nearly 70 myselfe thought it would be easier not to having to keep cocking a springer"

Absolutely understand. But. Your PCP will require filling. Lugging a cylinder to and from your local dive/gun shop or using a stirrup pump may not appeal either. Maybe you might want a compressor and dive bottle and be independent. After a while and with the correct technique, cocking a springer becomes fairly easy. I am nearly 70 and have an HW97 (underlever springer) and use a stirrup pump to refill my PCPs. Good luck with whatever you decide 👍.
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Whats it like using the stirrup pump .Is it more effort than going christmas shopping and about as much fun ?
 
iduxbury said:
I can concur as a lefty. On a bipod/rest bag, very quick and easy, standing becomes a bit of a juggling act.
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Thats what i thought when i tried it in the gun shop , I think i will just rest it on my Butlers shoulder,
I had to go down to the servants quarters this morning and give him a good horse whipping ,the cad forgot to iron my copy of the FT
 
Excellent. You might find something you fancy!

I decided to get a 7litre air bottle and yes they cost over £200 but I have shot maybe 1500 pellets and only just this last week got it topped up at £6 from 200 bar to 300 bar.
 
Left hand Luke said:
Whats it like using the stirrup pump .Is it more effort than going christmas shopping and about as much fun ?
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I never minded it although the dive bottle is obviously a lot easier. It's a reasonable workout and works better if you are fit, which I'm not!
 
Can't decide if to swap it, sell it or keep it

Keep it!

We've owned a HW100T in .22 for around 12 years - awesome piece of kit. Other than a rebuild last year to replace seals it has performed faultlessly. Well engineered, well built and laser like accurate.

but I just don't get anything from it?

If the rifle is a working tool for you and does its job really well, and it sounds like it does - what do you want? A load of trouble? Fancy stock you are afraid to get scratched?

I'd be grateful - you've got one of the best PCP rifles ever made.
 
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