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original post by @i8allthepies

Since it's something that newcomers to the sport struggle with, I thought it might be an idea to do a brief post on how to zero a scope.

Click on the pictures to enlarge.

Before starting, it's important to have the basics right, that is to say the 'eye relief' is properly set (this means that when you shoulder the rifle and look through the scope, you see the full image without moving your head backwards or forwards). - if this needs adjusting, undo the allen bolts slightly and slide the scope along the rail until it's comfortable, then re-tighten.

Next, be sure that the crosshairs on the reticle are properly aligned vertically and horizontally, in this picture, I have used the fence panels as a vertical reference -
1698FB9E-94BB-446A-9C30-B9A30E7EF268_4_5005_c.webp
f this needs correcting, slacken off the Allen bolts on top of the mounts, and gently rotate the scope (without moving it back and forth), and then re-tighten.

Your reticle may not look like the one in the picture, it may look like one of these -
D0AA7AA7-92D6-4D65-B27D-C1F8912AE10F_4_5005_c.webp

or even another style, either way it will generally have horizontal and vertical references.

Now we are ready for business. Try to do this on a day with no crosswind!

On the top and side of the scope, around half way along, you'll find the 'turrets', that is to say the dials that you'll use to zero, which are often referred to as 'windage' and 'elevation'. Sometimes these are already exposed, often, they're under caps like this -
0344A611-C3A1-49DC-BD35-8BF59564D25E_4_5005_c.webp

If caps are fitted, take them off and put them to one side.

Next, find a cardboard box perhaps a foot square on the face, fill it with something heavy and make a cross (+ not x) about 2" high and 2" wide in the middle of the box with a marker pen, measure or pace it out and place it so that it's 10 yards away, then make sure of your backstop.

With the rifle on a firm support / on a bipod / as stable as you can make it, and using your favoured pellets, take three careful shots at the centre of the cross. If all is well, you'll have a tight group of shots. For this example, let's say you're 1" low and 1" right of centre.

Always adjust for vertical first, as barring crosswinds your vertical alignment won't change with distance, and using the turret on the side of the scope, you'll see something similar to this -
29F56075-DCED-49AD-AC73-3D0EA02C55EC_4_5005_c.webp

This type adjusts with your fingers, some use a screwdriver, and in yet others the whole barrel turns, but it should be fairly obvious.

You'll notice a marking 'L', meaning left, and an arrow indicating which way to go. You'll also notice the markings '1 click ¼" 100 yards', meaning that each click in the direction of the arrow will shift your effective point of impact ¼" left at a range of 100 yards. Since we are working at only one tenth of that distance, each click will only shift aim by one tenth of the amount, so in our example 40 clicks will be needed to get to the vertical line at 10 yards.

Take another shot at centre, and see where you are, repeating as necessary until you are striking the vertical line, and of course to shift the effective point of aim to the right, turn the turret dial in the opposite direction, ie. against the arrow.

When you are hitting the vertical line (in our example, we'll be 1" below the horizontal line), you can move on to the elevation turret -
6D052113-E455-4162-885C-6C8A1B880955_4_5005_c.webp

and the idea is much the same, except that the dial is marked 'UP'. In our example, roughly 40 clicks will be needed to get up the horizontal. Again, repeat as necessary and fine tune.

Once you are happy, move the target out to your chosen zeroing distance, (in my case 30 yards), and fine tune using the same procedure laid out. Bear in mind that at 30 yards, approximately one third of the number of clicks will be needed, ie roughly 12 clicks to shift by an inch. (since 30 yards is nearly one third of the 100 yards that the turrets are calibrated for). Replace your turret caps if fitted, job's a goodun
;)


I hope this helps somebody, it serves me very well. Happy shooting
:up:
:)
:)
 
Original post by @Andy ( founder of AGF) A9577CE5-8738-481F-95B3-3BE642683F08_4_5005_c.webp

Your fence is not straight,
:D
does that mean your scope is now on the p**s.
:p


On a serious note folks, you can also use a plumb line on a calm day to get your crosshair level, just get a piece of string and tie a weight to the end then hang it from your preferred location.
:up:
This will help those who don't have a garden fence.
;)
:)
 
Original post by @i8allthepies

Great suggestion, Andy, and thanks.
There are, of course, other methods to zero, and everyone's input is welcome.
Constructive criticism too
:up:
 
Original post by @chance

say when you have zerod it to 30 yards , does it hit dead on from 30 downwards depending on wind ... or would you have to zero it for the closer range ??
 
Original post by @i8allthepies

Generally the idea would be to zero at your preferred comfortable maximum distance, (in my case 30 yards). You will then find you'll be pretty much bang on at 10 yards.

Because the pellet flies in an arc, at distances between 10 and 30 yards, you'll hit above the aim point, beyond 30 yards below the aim point. This will vary with velocity and pellet weight, and is more pronounced in the larger calibres eg. 0.25, and the flattest trajectory is 0.177

Since you can't realistically zero for every shot, you have to learn 'hold over' and 'hold under', this is part of the skill of shooting.
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Original post by @springrrr

The one thing that I have not seen addressed or maybe I missed it was what could / should be the very first step in the process. That is, centering the scope.

Turn both windage and elevation knobs to both stops and count the number of clicks or full turns between them. Then set the scope to the middle of each. For instance if there are 10 full turns from one end to another, set the scope to the middle, 5th turn from one end.

Then take a few shots on a large paper target with an X or O in the middle and see where the pellets are landing.

If very far off, before doing anything else, the scope should be shimmed or the mounts should be addressed to bring the shot pattern close to the aim point.

The reason for this that the reticule tube in most scopes is held in place by spring tension. If the scope adjustments are at one end or the other, the tension could be unbalanced to the point the reticule may move from shock and the scope will be forever unstable. Plus the fact, if centered, then you have a full range of adjustment on all sides both up and down.

After centering my scope by taking a file to my one piece mount to get the horizontal point of impact very close before I even touched the horizontal adjusting knob. I shimmed the scope to get the vertical close also. Now both adjustment knobs are within a few clicks of center at 35 yards.
 
Original post by @NIVEA

Hiya Andy. well done, I found the information on zeroing a scope interesting and informative . . . . . CHEERS
 
Also a quick word about focusing your scope, ideally done before zeroing...
The focus ring nearest your eye (Ocular) needs to be focussed first, point the scope at a large pale / white area, eg: an internal wall or at the sky (do not look at the sun through a scope!)
Turn the ocular focus ring so that the reticule / crosshairs are in focus and fine tune until they appear really clear and sharp.
The ocular lens is now focussed for your eye.
If your scope has adjustable objective, AO, (front or side focus) then this now also needs to be focussed.
Point the scope at a target at your chosen range, 25m. 30m. etc.
Turn the front lens focus ring (or if side focus SF scope, turn the side focus ring) until your target is very clear and sharp.
The objective lens is now focussed.
NB: if you change your magnification then you may need to refocus again.
If you change your shooting range significantly you can either apply hold under / over (HO/HU) or re-adjust the objective lens again.
Cheers
 
Original post by @i8allthepies

Great suggestion, Andy, and thanks.
There are, of course, other methods to zero, and everyone's input is welcome.
Constructive criticism too
:up:
My method is I draw a large cross on an a4 sheet at 35 yards and using the turrets ,when I can cut both lines ,I,m zeroed.
 
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original post by @i8allthepies

Since it's something that newcomers to the sport struggle with, I thought it might be an idea to do a brief post on how to zero a scope.

Click on the pictures to enlarge.

Before starting, it's important to have the basics right, that is to say the 'eye relief' is properly set (this means that when you shoulder the rifle and look through the scope, you see the full image without moving your head backwards or forwards). - if this needs adjusting, undo the allen bolts slightly and slide the scope along the rail until it's comfortable, then re-tighten.

Next, be sure that the crosshairs on the reticle are properly aligned vertically and horizontally, in this picture, I have used the fence panels as a vertical reference -
View attachment 13304
f this needs correcting, slacken off the Allen bolts on top of the mounts, and gently rotate the scope (without moving it back and forth), and then re-tighten.

Your reticle may not look like the one in the picture, it may look like one of these -
View attachment 13305
or even another style, either way it will generally have horizontal and vertical references.

Now we are ready for business. Try to do this on a day with no crosswind!

On the top and side of the scope, around half way along, you'll find the 'turrets', that is to say the dials that you'll use to zero, which are often referred to as 'windage' and 'elevation'. Sometimes these are already exposed, often, they're under caps like this -
View attachment 13306
If caps are fitted, take them off and put them to one side.

Next, find a cardboard box perhaps a foot square on the face, fill it with something heavy and make a cross (+ not x) about 2" high and 2" wide in the middle of the box with a marker pen, measure or pace it out and place it so that it's 10 yards away, then make sure of your backstop.

With the rifle on a firm support / on a bipod / as stable as you can make it, and using your favoured pellets, take three careful shots at the centre of the cross. If all is well, you'll have a tight group of shots. For this example, let's say you're 1" low and 1" right of centre.

Always adjust for vertical first, as barring crosswinds your vertical alignment won't change with distance, and using the turret on the side of the scope, you'll see something similar to this -
View attachment 13307
This type adjusts with your fingers, some use a screwdriver, and in yet others the whole barrel turns, but it should be fairly obvious.

You'll notice a marking 'L', meaning left, and an arrow indicating which way to go. You'll also notice the markings '1 click ¼" 100 yards', meaning that each click in the direction of the arrow will shift your effective point of impact ¼" left at a range of 100 yards. Since we are working at only one tenth of that distance, each click will only shift aim by one tenth of the amount, so in our example 40 clicks will be needed to get to the vertical line at 10 yards.

Take another shot at centre, and see where you are, repeating as necessary until you are striking the vertical line, and of course to shift the effective point of aim to the right, turn the turret dial in the opposite direction, ie. against the arrow.

When you are hitting the vertical line (in our example, we'll be 1" below the horizontal line), you can move on to the elevation turret -
View attachment 13308
and the idea is much the same, except that the dial is marked 'UP'. In our example, roughly 40 clicks will be needed to get up the horizontal. Again, repeat as necessary and fine tune.

Once you are happy, move the target out to your chosen zeroing distance, (in my case 30 yards), and fine tune using the same procedure laid out. Bear in mind that at 30 yards, approximately one third of the number of clicks will be needed, ie roughly 12 clicks to shift by an inch. (since 30 yards is nearly one third of the 100 yards that the turrets are calibrated for). Replace your turret caps if fitted, job's a goodun
;)


I hope this helps somebody, it serves me very well. Happy shooting
:up:
:)
:)
original post by @i8allthepies

Since it's something that newcomers to the sport struggle with, I thought it might be an idea to do a brief post on how to zero a scope.

Click on the pictures to enlarge.

Before starting, it's important to have the basics right, that is to say the 'eye relief' is properly set (this means that when you shoulder the rifle and look through the scope, you see the full image without moving your head backwards or forwards). - if this needs adjusting, undo the allen bolts slightly and slide the scope along the rail until it's comfortable, then re-tighten.

Next, be sure that the crosshairs on the reticle are properly aligned vertically and horizontally, in this picture, I have used the fence panels as a vertical reference -
View attachment 13304
f this needs correcting, slacken off the Allen bolts on top of the mounts, and gently rotate the scope (without moving it back and forth), and then re-tighten.

Your reticle may not look like the one in the picture, it may look like one of these -
View attachment 13305
or even another style, either way it will generally have horizontal and vertical references.

Now we are ready for business. Try to do this on a day with no crosswind!

On the top and side of the scope, around half way along, you'll find the 'turrets', that is to say the dials that you'll use to zero, which are often referred to as 'windage' and 'elevation'. Sometimes these are already exposed, often, they're under caps like this -
View attachment 13306
If caps are fitted, take them off and put them to one side.

Next, find a cardboard box perhaps a foot square on the face, fill it with something heavy and make a cross (+ not x) about 2" high and 2" wide in the middle of the box with a marker pen, measure or pace it out and place it so that it's 10 yards away, then make sure of your backstop.

With the rifle on a firm support / on a bipod / as stable as you can make it, and using your favoured pellets, take three careful shots at the centre of the cross. If all is well, you'll have a tight group of shots. For this example, let's say you're 1" low and 1" right of centre.

Always adjust for vertical first, as barring crosswinds your vertical alignment won't change with distance, and using the turret on the side of the scope, you'll see something similar to this -
View attachment 13307
This type adjusts with your fingers, some use a screwdriver, and in yet others the whole barrel turns, but it should be fairly obvious.

You'll notice a marking 'L', meaning left, and an arrow indicating which way to go. You'll also notice the markings '1 click ¼" 100 yards', meaning that each click in the direction of the arrow will shift your effective point of impact ¼" left at a range of 100 yards. Since we are working at only one tenth of that distance, each click will only shift aim by one tenth of the amount, so in our example 40 clicks will be needed to get to the vertical line at 10 yards.

Take another shot at centre, and see where you are, repeating as necessary until you are striking the vertical line, and of course to shift the effective point of aim to the right, turn the turret dial in the opposite direction, ie. against the arrow.

When you are hitting the vertical line (in our example, we'll be 1" below the horizontal line), you can move on to the elevation turret -
View attachment 13308
and the idea is much the same, except that the dial is marked 'UP'. In our example, roughly 40 clicks will be needed to get up the horizontal. Again, repeat as necessary and fine tune.

Once you are happy, move the target out to your chosen zeroing distance, (in my case 30 yards), and fine tune using the same procedure laid out. Bear in mind that at 30 yards, approximately one third of the number of clicks will be needed, ie roughly 12 clicks to shift by an inch. (since 30 yards is nearly one third of the 100 yards that the turrets are calibrated for). Replace your turret caps if fitted, job's a goodun
;)


I hope this helps somebody, it serves me very well. Happy shooting
:up:
:)
:)
hi,
I have tried to zeroing my Scope, however, After many efforts, still my airgun shoot low. even after setting elevation adjustment to max "UP", still it shoots lower that expected(1 inch). distance = 15 yard
any advice please?

Many thanks
 
hi,
I have tried to zeroing my Scope, however, After many efforts, still my airgun shoot low. even after setting elevation adjustment to max "UP", still it shoots lower that expected(1 inch). distance = 15 yard
any advice please?

Many thanks
Your rifle bore is about 1.5" or a little more below your line of sight so that the pellet trajectory would look something like this.
BLl9Xl6h.webp

I suggest that you try out to 25 to 35 yards and see where the POI is at that range. The chart is from ChairGun which is a free APP and you can tweak the numbers to match your rifle.
 
When aligning the crosshairs vertically using a plumb line, I also like to place a small spirit level on a flat part of the rifles action, I get the rifle completely level then line up the scope with the plumb line, this means your rifle and scope are perfectly aligned with each other as well.
 
Hi guys I'm having some real issues when zeroing my hawke mountmaster 3-9 50x on my hw99. At 10m I run out of elevation by about 5 inches below a 10mm target and can't seem to fix it any ideas?
 
Easiest way to check alignment is to view from the muzzle, changing the zoom as needed to get a good view.

Need I say that the rifle must be unloaded for this procedure 🤠
 
original post by @i8allthepies

Since it's something that newcomers to the sport struggle with, I thought it might be an idea to do a brief post on how to zero a scope.

Click on the pictures to enlarge.

Before starting, it's important to have the basics right, that is to say the 'eye relief' is properly set (this means that when you shoulder the rifle and look through the scope, you see the full image without moving your head backwards or forwards). - if this needs adjusting, undo the allen bolts slightly and slide the scope along the rail until it's comfortable, then re-tighten.

Next, be sure that the crosshairs on the reticle are properly aligned vertically and horizontally, in this picture, I have used the fence panels as a vertical reference -
View attachment 13304
f this needs correcting, slacken off the Allen bolts on top of the mounts, and gently rotate the scope (without moving it back and forth), and then re-tighten.

Your reticle may not look like the one in the picture, it may look like one of these -
View attachment 13305
or even another style, either way it will generally have horizontal and vertical references.

Now we are ready for business. Try to do this on a day with no crosswind!

On the top and side of the scope, around half way along, you'll find the 'turrets', that is to say the dials that you'll use to zero, which are often referred to as 'windage' and 'elevation'. Sometimes these are already exposed, often, they're under caps like this -
View attachment 13306
If caps are fitted, take them off and put them to one side.

Next, find a cardboard box perhaps a foot square on the face, fill it with something heavy and make a cross (+ not x) about 2" high and 2" wide in the middle of the box with a marker pen, measure or pace it out and place it so that it's 10 yards away, then make sure of your backstop.

With the rifle on a firm support / on a bipod / as stable as you can make it, and using your favoured pellets, take three careful shots at the centre of the cross. If all is well, you'll have a tight group of shots. For this example, let's say you're 1" low and 1" right of centre.

Always adjust for vertical first, as barring crosswinds your vertical alignment won't change with distance, and using the turret on the side of the scope, you'll see something similar to this -
View attachment 13307
This type adjusts with your fingers, some use a screwdriver, and in yet others the whole barrel turns, but it should be fairly obvious.

You'll notice a marking 'L', meaning left, and an arrow indicating which way to go. You'll also notice the markings '1 click ¼" 100 yards', meaning that each click in the direction of the arrow will shift your effective point of impact ¼" left at a range of 100 yards. Since we are working at only one tenth of that distance, each click will only shift aim by one tenth of the amount, so in our example 40 clicks will be needed to get to the vertical line at 10 yards.

Take another shot at centre, and see where you are, repeating as necessary until you are striking the vertical line, and of course to shift the effective point of aim to the right, turn the turret dial in the opposite direction, ie. against the arrow.

When you are hitting the vertical line (in our example, we'll be 1" below the horizontal line), you can move on to the elevation turret -
View attachment 13308
and the idea is much the same, except that the dial is marked 'UP'. In our example, roughly 40 clicks will be needed to get up the horizontal. Again, repeat as necessary and fine tune.

Once you are happy, move the target out to your chosen zeroing distance, (in my case 30 yards), and fine tune using the same procedure laid out. Bear in mind that at 30 yards, approximately one third of the number of clicks will be needed, ie roughly 12 clicks to shift by an inch. (since 30 yards is nearly one third of the 100 yards that the turrets are calibrated for). Replace your turret caps if fitted, job's a goodun
;)


I hope this helps somebody, it serves me very well. Happy shooting
:up:
:)
:)
That was very good of you to take time to do that for people. Good soul.
 
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