Hand Eye Coordination

One of the issues when shooting using a stream from a scope is the network lag between the scope and the viewing device - even a millisecond delay between what the scope sees and what your eye sees on the display can result in an unexpected poi as you can be shooting at where the rifle was pointing not where it is
 
Back when I used to shoot .22lr comps one of the practice things we used to do was to take up position, sight up on the diopters, close eye count to 5 and reopen eye - then see where the sight picture was. I did this with the airguns too, with the only difference being I would take the shot - get in position, sight up, close eye, count to 5, take shot, open eye and repeat for a 10 shot string - it's a good way to practice your concentration, hold, trigger and breathing techniques rather than making subconscious corrections and can show up where you are fighting the gun. If your group is off from the original aimpoint it can show up overgripping, pushing, etc
 
stevew71 said:
One of the issues when shooting using a stream from a scope is the network lag between the scope and the viewing device - even a millisecond delay between what the scope sees and what your eye sees on the display can result in an unexpected poi as you can be shooting at where the rifle was pointing not where it is
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Just means you have to hold bull longer . Saying that the Infraray scopes have the own brilliant wifi no lag that i can see on either my TD50L or my Thermal TL50 which has wifi & bluetooth .
 
Try also shooting eyes closed after a look, or from the hip (obviously in a safe area), you will be amazed at what you can do with very little practise, all stuff we did as nippers and thought nothing of.

When folks go on about being unable to practise standers, I just reply you can just stand and pretend, without even cocking and dry firing, as the muscles used will be improved by reps. It's basic when you think about it!

ATB, Ed
 
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stevew71 said:
Back when I used to shoot .22lr comps one of the practice things we used to do was to take up position, sight up on the diopters, close eye count to 5 and reopen eye - then see where the sight picture was. I did this with the airguns too, with the only difference being I would take the shot - get in position, sight up, close eye, count to 5, take shot, open eye and repeat for a 10 shot string - it's a good way to practice your concentration, hold, trigger and breathing techniques rather than making subconscious corrections and can show up where you are fighting the gun. If your group is off from the original aimpoint it can show up overgripping, pushing, etc
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Some of my practice is holding a 2mm bull on 50x mag staying in the ring for 15 minutes .
plus i often shot 10 BR targets in a row . builds concentration levels .

Im quite a good average shooter 😉
 
edbear3 said:
Try also shooting eyes closed after a look, or from the hip (obviously in a safe area), you will be amazed at what you can do with very little practise, all stuff we did as nippers and thought nothing of.

When folks go on about being unable to practise staners, I just reply you can just stand and pretend, without even cocking and dry firing, as the muscles used will be improved by reps. It's basic when you think about it!

ATB, Ed
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Front room going through the drills over and over and over not a shot fired . the Mrs thinks im nuts 🤣😂🤣😂
 
1260engineer said:
Some of my practice is holding a 2mm bull on 50x mag staying in the ring for 15 minutes .
plus i often shot 10 BR targets in a row . builds concentration levels .

Im quite a good average shooter 😉
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no questioning your skills J ;) - just a tip to others from things that I used to practice. Back in the day (when hi mag was a 6-24x Tasco :ROFLMAO: ) it was trying to hold the crosshair on a lamppost lock at the end of the street standing and timing the 'shot'.

I've linked both my Pards and Hik Thermal to tablets/phones and their WIFI connections are good (there's no other traffic) but I can still spot a lag or stutter on occasion if tracking across the range especially in colour/day mode and I suspect it's down to the amount of data that they are trying to process, send then render on the receiving device - bench rest I'd expect a lot less 'new' data to have to be transmitted and processed. It still cracks me up that the Pards will still pick up a .177 in flight to impact at 70yds+ on the recording 😎
 
stevew71 said:
no questioning your skills J ;) - just a tip to others from things that I used to practice. Back in the day (when hi mag was a 6-24x Tasco :ROFLMAO: ) it was trying to hold the crosshair on a lamppost lock at the end of the street standing and timing the 'shot'.

I've linked both my Pards and Hik Thermal to tablets/phones and their WIFI connections are good (there's no other traffic) but I can still spot a lag or stutter on occasion if tracking across the range especially in colour/day mode and I suspect it's down to the amount of data that they are trying to process, send then render on the receiving device - bench rest I'd expect a lot less 'new' data to have to be transmitted and processed. It still cracks me up that the Pards will still pick up a .177 in flight to impact at 70yds+ on the recording 😎
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🙂 My Vulcan with the TD50L on I call the dragon now it has 2 red eyes .
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Ive found i can have one one medium spread beam and the other on narrow and see the round all the way to the target right out to 150 yds . shiny QYS really shiny in IR light 🤣😂🤣😂 great for checking wind across the target .
Only thing my IR dident like was gloss finish target paper in day time mode but with the latest update its much better now .

Mmmmm Simmi 3x9x56 moonlighter them were the days 🙂 . still have a Whitetail on my Eliminator

Practice is what we make of it Steve as you know we make things more difficult for our selves to improve and overcome.
thats why we move the 4.5mm bull from 20 to 30 to 40 to 50yds and so on . its the challenge. our own skills test .
 
1260engineer said:
🙂 My Vulcan with the TD50L on I call the dragon now it has 2 red eyes .
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Ive found i can have one one medium spread beam and the other on narrow and see the round all the way to the target right out to 150 yds . shiny QYS really shiny in IR light 🤣😂🤣😂 great for checking wind across the target .
Only thing my IR dident like was gloss finish target paper in day time mode but with the latest update its much better now .

Mmmmm Simmi 3x9x56 moonlighter them were the days 🙂 . still have a Whitetail on my Eliminator

Practice is what we make of it Steve as you know we make things more difficult for our selves to improve and overcome.
thats why we move the 4.5mm bull from 20 to 30 to 40 to 50yds and so on . its the challenge. our own skills test .
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Ah, I was referring to daylight - haven't seen how far I can see them/catch them on the Pards under NV/IR yet (hell I normally forget to hit record!) but the tracer effect at shorter ranges is very useful for post shot analysis (like a white laser to Mr Roland)
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This is from the older Pard008P when it was mounted on the Renegade with QYS Heavy ~Streamlined iirc running at ~10.7ftlb (and before I had a ZB mount on it hence the offset reticle) - target is 60yds
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and at 75yds from my firing point - you can see the pellet drop onto the knockdown after the reset hit

p.s. if anyone knows how to de-ping a Renegade........
 
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Chrisj said:
When I started pistol shooting we were told to practice at home with a mirror, obviously with out being loaded.
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Same with archery, we had a pneumatic arrow arrestor that allowed shooting at a mirror indoors, excellent for building muscle memory and curing stance errors
 
Chrisj said:
When I started pistol shooting we were told to practice at home with a mirror, obviously with out being loaded.
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I point a laser on to a bit of black board ( laser dot stays very small on matt black surface ) the i practice holding on it getting my breathing and heart rate down .which then helps with normal everyday stuff to . when im shooting i can get down in the high 40' low 50's
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Buryal said:
I remember a picture of Malcolm Cooper, world champion, practicing dry firing his rifle in his lounge, which he did for hours and it payed off for him big time.
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Drilling stops you getting flustered . that way everything becomes part of a program. the head runs the program . thing is it dosent just control what you do with the rifle it controls what your body does breathing / heart rate /relaxed muscles so they dont tremble . all calm and collected.
I know it all sounds a bit deep and black bag stuff but its all there in the top shooters .
 
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