Does it damage a PCP to dry fire it??

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Before I get suspended ( just left a tarty reply aimed at keyboard warrior mods on another post)
Really as per the title, of course I would not ask such a dumb question re a springer, but can it do any damage to PCP's, like regulators etc???
Thanks Paul.
 
Before I get suspended ( just left a tarty reply aimed at keyboard warrior mods on another post)
Really as per the title, of course I would not ask such a dumb question re a springer, but can it do any damage to PCP's, like regulators etc???
Thanks Paul.
Absolutely YES. Try this simple experiment.

1, Wait for a windy day.

2, Open your front door wide.

3, Go open your back door.

4, See how your front door has slammed violently shut and you are lucky if the glass has not fallen out???

So it is with valves..

Doing it without air, is just as bad, but for a different reason.
 
Before I get suspended ( just left a tarty reply aimed at keyboard warrior mods on another post)
Really as per the title, of course I would not ask such a dumb question re a springer, but can it do any damage to PCP's, like regulators etc???
Thanks Paul.

Provided there is air in it, no it will not be harmed by dry firing.

With no air in the cylinder there is a risk of causing some damage if done repeatedly, but an occasional occurrence under these circumstances is unlikely to be problematic.
 
Ive been dry firing my pcps every week for over 25 years especially my regulated guns, if anything its good for them.

Imagine leaving a car in a garage for years what happens to the tyres, they crack because rubber will go hard when not exercised, same with the coil springs an old car might crack a spring if not used often at the first speed bump it hits.

Same with pcps when you fire them regularly it keeps the rubber supple, imagine all the o rings in the gun flexing as the pressure equalises, it certainly kept mine in good order, I put some shots over chrono with my mk2 rapid the other day its not had a pellet through it in nearly a year the results were just 2 fps variation over 10 shots, I put that down to regularly dry firing it.

Every gun I have is exceptionally accurate, I dont own anything average, I put that not only down to the barrel and ammo but down to regular use, like any well oiled machine gets slicker when bedded in, all bearing surfaces bed in regular use keeps them free from getting sticky or forming any internal corrosion, any oil or grease can kind of coagulate if not used regularly, Ive serviced guns that were filled with grease from the factory and it goes thick and sticky without use, anyone who has pulled for example a hw100 apart will vouch for that, a regularly used one will often have a more jellied type of grease than one which hasnt been used often, and so the first thing some owners tend to do is degrease them, as viscosity also changes with temperature therefore consistency, some people run them dry but personally I very lightly lube them, and after I service them I advise regular use even if thats dry firing regularly, and they tend to get better and better, and go longer between services.
 
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Manufacturers that don't supply a de gassing tool usually say to dry fire a gun to empty it before working on it .
To me that suggests that in most cases it will not cause damage.
However if the manual for your gun says not to do it then dont
 
Absolutely YES. Try this simple experiment.

1, Wait for a windy day.
2, Open your front door wide.
3, Go open your back door.
4, See how your front door has slammed violently shut and you are lucky if the glass has not fallen out???
So it is with valves..
Doing it without air, is just as bad, but for a different reason.
False equivalency. It's more like:
1, Take your front door off it's hinges and set it aside.
2. Open and close your back door.
 
My BSA Super Ten mk11 requires dry firing to empty reg to remove bottle for filling, so.....
 
Absolutely YES. Try this simple experiment.

1, Wait for a windy day.

2, Open your front door wide.

3, Go open your back door.

4, See how your front door has slammed violently shut and you are lucky if the glass has not fallen out???

So it is with valves..

Doing it without air, is just as bad, but for a different reason.
The analogy is flawed in many ways,
Firing with and without air makes little difference whether there is a pellet to be pushed or not, the forces on the firing mechanism are much the same either way.
As for firing without air the forces are reduced considerably, it's only the spring on the firing valve that will have extended travel due to the absence of air so its possible the spring will go coil bound, but this is unlikely to be a problem unless done to excess.
 
Well, if it does most manufacturers have been utterly stupid in the design and engineering for decades because the only way to empty a very high proportion of them is to dry fire them.

Unless you want to go down the unscrewing pressurised components route to bleed off, such as unscrewing gauges. Personally, I would never be happy doing that but that's a personal taboo. I know some folks would do it and have no qualms about it on the basis that just enough of a turn to break the seal is safe.
 
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