I find that 4X is perfect magnification for the guns that I have. I ordered two of these scopes (one L version which has 1/4 MOA turrets) and the standard with 1/2 MOA turrets. I ordered both of the scopes for the price of a single Hawke 4x32, so hopefully quality is there. They are very light which is what attracted me to them and they mail to Canada. Hoping to use them on my PP750 carbine and possibly my Huben GK1 when it gets set up as a carbine (I need to source adapters and such yet). Any experience with these? Hoping they work well.