Definitely a .22 for Rabbits for Me From Now On!

[keithy]

I use my .20 on rabbits, but on my recent shoot
see hunting section post i used my hw100kt.177 cal
with all instant kills no runners, the .20 cal also dels
good impact and flat trajectory out to 40 yds, its accuracy that counts not the size of the brick.
atb brian

Yes 20cal maybe the ideal in sub 12 . BUT any breeze makes your shots inaccurate in the real world sub 12. BIgger and heavier and faster calibers in FAC cut thro the wind very well.

 

[knipescar]

Must say i use both always will never felt i was at a disadvantage whichever i was using each to there own i suppose

 

[Jig ward]

I prefer .22 but really don't care what I use as the steel plates ain't crying over the pellet size that's used

 

[El Matador]

In your opinion, the DS35-50 would be much better for our PCPs ?

 

[Mad Andy]

Yes

Thanks!
That sounds useful.

 

[wookienookie..]

So basically this pard DS35 Lrf does the maths and puts the crosshairs on all of your targets..??
Is that right..? And night vision too?

 

[ThermionicValveTech]

I'd rather use .17HMR where I can but if I need to shoot them quietly an air gun is great.

I've shot plenty with .177 over the years and I'd strongly advise using JSB RS 7.33gr in a springer, they can be hauling up to 850 FPS!

The speed alone offsets the diameter and weight advantage of 22 and the results are devastating.

You won't get that 850 fps speed from a PCP without being well over the legal limit with heavier pellets unfortunately that's the nature of the PCP rifle Vs a Springer.

But the flatness achieved gives you 43 yards of MPBR shooting, that's getting on for rimfire sub sonic levels of flat shooting and at a considerable ammo saving!

 

[Ben Hur]

In your opinion, the DS35-50 would be much better for our PCPs ?

Having looked at reviews and utube vids the 50 is my choice as it has wider field of vision. Max distance I will shoot is 60yds.

 

[Ben Hur]

So basically this pard DS35 Lrf does the maths and puts the crosshairs on all of your targets..??
Is that right..? And night vision too?

Yip. Plink in my garden at 12 and 19 yds then went to outdoor gun club and shot at 53yds. Ballistic calc was spot on. Great for my .22 with its trajectory.

 

[wookienookie..]

Yip.

Bloody hell!!! my wife and I still gotta lotta learning, practicing to to on our hunting / field target permission, trajectory plotting and practice on the hold over/under..
still had a few along the way..
And due to the cost of £850 x 2 for Victoria and myself hunting side by side we’ll plod on the old fashioned way no doubt.. but

That’s f brilliant..

Well chuffed for all who have one of those..

Enjoy brother

 

[Yorkyboy]

My mate always shoots .177 as he likes the trajectory and is a top shot. I prefer .22 as the hold over doesn’t phase me and I like the challenge of working it all out and getting it bang on….. until…….. my mate brought his .20 hw100 out and that just brought a tear to my eye. It’s perfect lol

 

[Rob CB]

How do mate, this would be better posted in the "Hunting" section, if you ask one of the Moderators they should be able to give you access to it.
ATB - Andy

Thank you. I thought "Anything Air Gun Related" would include hunting with an air gun. No problem if one of the moderators wants to move it.

Hunting section..?

So basically this pard DS35 Lrf does the maths and puts the crosshairs on all of your targets..??
Is that right..? And night vision too?

Yes that is correct but you have to enter the details when setting up such as pellet weight, speed, scope height, zero distance etc. Then double check to make sure its accurate which I found it is. Then range find your target such as a Rabbit hit the button again and a cross appears on your vertical crosshair as your aim point. Yes night vision as well.

 

[chouchin66]

If one places it in the spot the size of one's thumbnail, it don't make a lick of difference what you use...it'll give synapse reaction.

 

[Mad Andy]

So basically this pard DS35 Lrf does the maths and puts the crosshairs on all of your targets..??
Is that right..? And night vision too?

I know exactly what you're thinking


Me too!

 

[Dodgyeye]

I've recently changed to using 11.9g .22 Hobby pellets that give a pretty flat trajectory for slotting through the branches as well and dump energy on impact better than a .177.

I'm becoming a convert to .22 for pretty much everything.

 

[Jonnyovy]

Yep. Owned lots of .177 / .20 / .22 and a few .25’s

All do the job but its .22 for me. I shoot springers with scope so the ethic range is limited. The trajectory is almost irrelevant and theres no quick follow up shot.

For the reasons above I may aswell take my time, get suitably close and throw a bigger round at it to ensure its lights out with one shot.

 

[TomBillings916]

I've always used both with no real difference, if you hit them in the right spot game over.

 

[Dr B]

I've been singing the praises of the .22 for over three decades. Sometimes people listen..... .

One general point. This may not be a popular view, but I dont think you should take shots on at a distance you have not practised and already 'know' what your holdovers (or indeed unders) are. Technology is great - but not sure I'd trust it unless tested against what I know to be true from field testing on targets. I use a MKI brain to do this and because I know my combos well - its fast and efficient in the field.

For my set-up, at 11.6ft.lbs, shooting a 16g AADF, with the scope set to x6 (Hawke mildots), its half a mil for 35yds, and 1 full mil for 40yds. I'm disciplined in the field (no shots over 40yds on live quarry). What is particularly hard to understand or memorise? I see 'knowing' your holdovers / holdunders as fundamental to fieldcraft. There's nowt wrong with tech - but I'd still want to know my holdovers first.

 

[Rob CB]

I've been singing the praises of the .22 for over three decades. Sometimes people listen..... .

One general point. This may not be a popular view, but I dont think you should take shots on at a distance you have not practised and already 'know' what your holdovers (or indeed unders) are. Technology is great - but not sure I'd trust it unless tested against what I know to be true from field testing on targets. I use a MKI brain to do this and because I know my combos well - its fast and efficient in the field.

For my set-up, at 11.6ft.lbs, shooting a 16g AADF, with the scope set to x6 (Hawke mildots), its half a mil for 35yds, and 1 full mil for 40yds. I'm disciplined in the field (no shots over 40yds on live quarry). What is particularly hard to understand or memorise? I see 'knowing' your holdovers / holdunders as fundamental to fieldcraft. There's nowt wrong with tech - but I'd still want to know my holdovers first.

Thank you. I agree. I have two other .177 rifles with conventional scopes and I know the holdovers on those. At 12x half a mil at 35yds, three quarters at 40 and one and a quarter at 45 my max. The main purpose of the DS35 is for Rabbit shooting at night with its IR and range finder which is a must at night IMO. As it has the Ballistic Calculator which has been tested and is accurate why not use it. If I use my .177 at night and conventional scopes I use a Pard NV007v and a LE032 rangefinder and have to use the conventional holdover points. As regards the DS35 you can choose a scope profile that has dots and easy to also memorize those if you do not want to use the inbuilt. Therefore, I agree it is good to know manually rather than tech.