deac machine gun

[john harris]

 

[john harris]

ran out of space above.

Do you think I can rely on this unheaded/signed doc? Is its contents true?

Hoping to buy this at Bonhams auction. Been £10k for a few days. Auction 3/1. Fingers crossed

 

[Andy602]

The gun should be proof house stamped as a deac by either the Birmingham or London Proof house. Its these stamps that prove it was legally deactivated, not the certificate. That said its illegal to sell a UK spec deac (pre2016) that hasnt been re worked to EU-UK spec.

 

[.20 Hunting Legend]

Good luck hope you buy it. You may make money by renting it out
Put a bid in for 15k see what happens .

 

[john harris]

Why would i DO THAT? iT'S BEEN AT £1100 for 2 days. Ends 7.30pm 3/1

 

[Flinty]

ran out of space above.

Do you think I can rely on this unheaded/signed doc? Is its contents true?

Hoping to buy this at Bonhams auction. Been £10k for a few days. Auction 3/1. Fingers c

Just found this on their condition report
As for the splendid Vickers .303 HMG, it is deactivated however, we believe new legislation requires it to have an up-to-date certificate, so the vendor will have this checked and certified by a qualified third-party prior to the buyer collecting the vehicle.
I think you might want to look a bit further into that

 

[john harris]

Mmm didnt see/find that. Got a link?

 

[Jester]

It will need re-deactivating to current spec to sell legally,

 

[Flinty]

Mmm didnt see/find that. Got a link?

Try this https://carsonline.bonhams.com/en/listings/austin/champ/cb272d46-b0a3-415f-8f4f-d1420371b7ad
if not go to the lot and click on view full gallery

Just checked you will need to use the link then click on view the full gallery then scroll down

 

[john harris]

found it. If I buy I cant see they would stop me taking away?

 

[john harris]

does that mean I couldn't 'legally' buy it, or the seller is liable if I do. Bonhams wont reply as to whether they would let it go

 

[Andy602]

I've just looked at the link and the Vickers appears to be Australian (made by Lithgow) and is definitely WW2 not WW1.
The Gun and tripod are worth four grand minimum and potentially a good bit more.

 

[Andy602]

does that mean I couldn't 'legally' buy it, or the seller is liable if I do. Bonhams wont reply as to whether they would let it go

The offence is selling not buying. I'd give James at Chelmsford Militaria a call, he'd be able to give you some good advice.

 

[Flinty]

They might let you take the Jeep but the .303 will stay with them until proven all legal, which could be costly and will most likely mean bringing it up to the new standard if not already to that, and then a new deact cert from the proof house. you certainly need to know exactly what they would want to release it?

 

[zakdingel]

Is that a action man set

 

[Snarepeg]

Well, that brings back memories.
We tested that fitting on a champ in 54 at Putlos Germany.
The problem was the recoil set-the champ bouncing up and down at one point it was striking the ground at 100 yards then bouncing up and firing into the Baltic sea..
Vickers work better on three legs and as low down as you can get.
Thanks for the memories. Ex xix

 

[.20 Hunting Legend]

Why would i DO THAT? iT'S BEEN AT £1100 for 2 days. Ends 7.30pm 3/1

Calm down mate , fooking hell . I thought it was a live auction . As in turn up see thing in person .

 

[s15vew]

it does say " been at £10k for few days" to me 10k is 10grand

 

[Rich79]

I wouldn't bid until you get a firm answer from the aution House, I'm guessing it's old spec as one stolen in 2008 wouldn't matter if it had an up to date post 2016 one.

 

[Rex 85]

We used to have a Champ about 4 MPG would go anywhere
set the hand throttle, sit in the back rabbiting
Believe MOD got rid of them as being too expensive to run
Some engine part were interchangeable with the six and eight cylinders