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Milbro said:
That's what I would like to have if I want to use it for rats as well as targets.
I received the Rabbit destroyer today brand-new and its firing 8.6ft lbs so not impressed at all
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Don't fall into the trap of thinking that more power is better - by far the most important thing is reproducible accuracy and 8-10FPE is perfectly acceptable for rat and target work.
Milbro said:
is it available on the net ? The work?
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The QB78 platform is extremely easy to work on yourself and there's plenty of parts available from various makers. They are also very easy to take way over the limit, so a chrono is essential. If you are not a member already, join UKCAF where all the information you need is available
 
That hurts said:
Don't fall into the trap of thinking that more power is better - by far the most important thing is reproducible accuracy and 8-10FPE is perfectly acceptable for rat and target work.

The QB78 platform is extremely easy to work on yourself and there's plenty of parts available from various makers. They are also very easy to take way over the limit, so a chrono is essential. If you are not a member already, join UKAF where all the information you need is available
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thank you
 
Boreham said:
The Webley Nemesis is around 9-10, which is probably the max you will get out of a Co2 powered rifle, also the power varies depending on the outside temperature so I bet Webley measured theirs at a warm temperature
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On_target said:
Note that whilst the XS501 in .22 usually seems to be around 12fpe the same is not true of the .177 version which is around 8fpe to 9fpe
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Why is that?
 
I have had a few in .22 and they averaged 10.5 ft lb . As stated they can be turned up .
But remember the Crosman 2240 pistol is for rats and that shoots at sub 6 ft lb.
I now own a .177 rabbit destroyer and it is less powerful, around 6 ft lb as it’s totally turned down . It is much more accurate than the .177 but I only plink in the garden .
The more power you set it at the harder it is to cock and in my mind makes it less enjoyable to use.
 
no pistol should be used for vermin unless its being used to kill vermin already caught in a trap
 
joe average said:
no pistol should be used for vermin unless its being used to kill vermin already caught in a trap
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So while a recoiling spring piston rifle such as the HW30, producing an average of 6.5 to 8.5 ft lbs, is considered acceptable to use for pest control out to 20 yards or so.
But a recoilless co2 pistol such as the 2240 producing 5.5ft lbs is unsuitable at half that distance?
 
Bluetoe said:
So while a recoiling spring piston rifle such as the HW30, producing an average of 6.5 to 8.5 ft lbs, is considered acceptable to use for pest control out to 20 yards or so.
But a recoilless co2 pistol such as the 2240 producing 5.5ft lbs is unsuitable at half that distance?
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I must say the 2240 at more than a few feet would be hard to do a clean kill . I’m not talking about the ones that have had £300 spent on upgrades .
 
The old Crosman 2260 was always hovering around 11-12fpe.
 
A rifle is inherently more accurate and easier to be more consistent than a pistol
 
Oldfart said:
I must say the 2240 at more than a few feet would be hard to do a clean kill . I’m not talking about the ones that have had £300 spent on upgrades .
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I must admit I've never owned a 2240 so can't comment on the accuracy , or lack of, though my 2250 does quite well with the longer barrel. I have however taken plenty of short range barn rats and ferals in the past using my PP700.
 
Bluetoe said:
So while a recoiling spring piston rifle such as the HW30, producing an average of 6.5 to 8.5 ft lbs, is considered acceptable to use for pest control out to 20 yards or so.
But a recoilless co2 pistol such as the 2240 producing 5.5ft lbs is unsuitable at half that distance?
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@Bluetoe

Please note AGF rules:


Air Pistols
We do not not consider air pistols to be an appropriate tool for "hunting" due to their limited muzzle energy and inferior real-world accuracy compared to rifles. As such they are not capable of reliably delivering the consistent humane kills rightfully required by law (and any good hunter's conscience).

The only legitimate pest control application for an air pistol is for a suitably powerful example (4ft.lb +) to be used for dispatching trapped quarry at "point blank" range.


Air Pistol with Stocks
The addition of a stock to an air pistol can greatly improve its accuracy potential; addressing arguably the biggest reason these guns are unsuitable for pest control. However, the issue of low muzzle energy persists so stocked-pistols remain inferior to rifles in this regard and as such even pistols with relatively high muzzle energies (4ftlb+) are far from ideal and only of use over very close ranges (sub-10yds) at best.

Please remember the 6ftlb legal muzzle energy limit still applies to air pistols whether they have a stock fitted or not.

Other than the two exceptions above, "hunting" with air pistols is not to be promoted or discussed on AGF.
 
I was not talking about 'hunting' I've never hunted anything with rifle or pistol
 
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