Can the mods please explain to me why I cannot access the sales section anymore & why my sound moderator adverts have been removed ?

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I do think it’s rather cheeky tbh
I wonder if carbooters or market traders get away with not paying fees simply because they give the odd item away

Fact is you mentioned 2009.. 16yrs ago
If you’ve been making a nice side line for the past 16yrs, obviously no tax involved, no business rates etc etc
You can hardly blame the site owners for taking a stand when you are profiteering from the sales platform.

That’s my view, many will disagree no doubt.
Hello, Do not all Members on the Members Manufacturing side of the AGF do this as a way to help Forum members with out being a Trade member ?
 
Sadly, I see parallels with that here. Of late, there’s been lots of murmuring about the cost of running the forum and moderators/founders losing money, donations required etc. Soon after those conversations started, there was talk of removing sales access from people who seem to over-use the sales section and don’t post regularly
you couldnt be more wrong , nothing to do with anything financial, members have always been banned for only using the sales section
 
If you look at the list of manufacturers, very few have high post counts, (even Welsh Willy has less than 600 posts since the start of this incarnation of the forum). This is probably because they’re all very busy making us all brilliant stuff at probably less than true cost.
So one can only presume that most must be making the odd donation, otherwise they would also have lost access?
Or the Mods have looked at where these other members have been posting and what they have posted and saw they were not only replying to promote their wares as does happen.

Not on here but another forum, one member who made parts only ever posted in threads to advertise his wares. He tried to make it look like he was taking part in the discussions but it was a thinly veiled advert for his parts any time he posted.

He got his sales access removed and stopped using the forum. That showed me and others why he was there and it was not for taking part in the forum other than selling his ware's.
 
Contributing is taking part in the forum other than buying and selling .

Have a read here as you were mentioned in one post .

I saw that & took the message onboard by immediately starting a post about Anschutz 335's.

I work full time & the sound moderator manufacture is a hobby I have been doing now for 16 years on this & the previous forum. With a busy family of 5 I am time poor to say the least. If I spent the time I would like to engaging on the forum, a divorce would soon follow.
 
I do think it’s rather cheeky tbh
I wonder if carbooters or market traders get away with not paying fees simply because they give the odd item away

Fact is you mentioned 2009.. 16yrs ago
If you’ve been making a nice side line for the past 16yrs, obviously no tax involved, no business rates etc etc
You can hardly blame the site owners for taking a stand when you are profiteering from the sales platform.

That’s my view, many will disagree no doubt.
I'm not sure I can call it a nice sideline, it's a hobby that I enjoy & pays for my pellets each week. Heating my garage / workshop over winter with calor gas seemed to cost far more than previous years as an example. My prices have gone up around 15% since 2012 as an example, in that time materials, electricity, postage etc have all gone up far in excess of that. Work out the price increase of a HW moderator in the same period....they have gone up by at a approx 50+% in 13 years !

I have never had an issue with donating since the subject was raised earlier this month. I was planning to start making a donation at the end of this month & beyond. However before that my sales access was restricted without any prior warning or discussion....which the way I was brought up is considered impolite.
 
I guess Matt ignored the 9th May post as noise.
To me, whether I agree or disagree, being mentioned in that thread probably would have elicited some response, to work out a mutually agreeable way forward.
It does not look like 'forum' engagement if that was not seen.
See response above about forum engagement. I certainly didn't ignore the 9th May message & immediately started up a discussion post about Anschutz 335's which are a favourite of mine.
 
Hello, I have known Matt from the old AGF to this new AGF and he has made a great contribution to the Forums not only with his silencers but a whole host of Air Rifle Knowledge and replying to members questions, But some people just do not have time to converse on every Posting due to work and family commitments
Thanks for the kind words Gordon :)
 
And still not a word from the admin as to why I have had my access restricted with no prior warning or discussion ?
 
And I have reached out twice now to the admin team + an individual moderator ?
 
To me a forum is a collection of different people with a similar interest. Some will post a lot, some will read a lot and some like the op have a hobby and participate by making stuff. All working together, like ants.
The variety of people like that is what make the forum tick along attracting existing members and new members.
I hope you get your sales access back so you can continue your hobby and make people happy with their moderators
 
Looks like yet another asset to our Airgun tools of the trade is going to leave the site .. deleted member was a great manufacturer and now gone.. mods need to look at these lads as they are more important to us to manufacture stuff at reasonable rates and top quality than replying to most pointless chat on here..leave them get on with what they do best manufacture items at a fraction of the cost to help us out.. surely that’s more important. ..
 
Hello, Looking at the Members Manufacturing section i see many do not get involved much on the general forum discussions due to other commitments, It is a shame to pick on one particular AGF long standing member, If it is a case on contributing to the cost of running the Forum then why not say so,
 
To me a forum is a collection of different people with a similar interest. Some will post a lot, some will read a lot and some like the op have a hobby and participate by making stuff. All working together, like ants.
The variety of people like that is what make the forum tick along attracting existing members and new members.
I hope you get your sales access back so you can continue your hobby and make people happy with their moderators
Hello, Hope so as i not long ago broke my XS 79 silencer :(
 
Hello, Looking at the Members Manufacturing section i see many do not get involved much on the general forum discussions due to other commitments, It is a shame to pick on one particular AGF long standing member, If it is a case on contributing to the cost of running the Forum then why not say so,
Matt was not the only one " picked on" as you put it ,There were others mentioned in that thread and I suspect others have been contacted via PM.

If you have time to trawl through the sales and wanted sections and reply to ad's then surely you have time to contribute to the rest of the forum .
 
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I think it's a bit of a double edged sword,maybe some of the manufacturers on here make a few quid but they're also assets to the forum and keep people visiting it.I've.had a shroud off hal which I am delighted with,the logunator has helped me many times and I bought a tuning kit off welsh willy which was cheaper on here as he does a discount for members.I'm not a prolific poster but I think this forum is the best there is because of all the multiple facets it provides
 
And I have reached out twice now to the admin team + an individual moderator ?
Maybe they are working as well and have family’s to attend. I’m sure we all do


I think the whole point of this from what I have gathered over the last few weeks is they expect people to be actively posting and being a part of discussions and not just freeads, which seems fair.
I’m not for one minute calling you out over this as I don’t know you(but have one of your great mods!).
Unless retired I guess we all work long days and spend time with family and other hobbies. Just start with a little interaction daily and from my understanding that’s it 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
I remember sending you this message a while back.

Hello it has been mentioned and brought to our attention you pretty much solely use the forum for distribution and advertisement purposes.

The member manufactured section was made as an area for members of the forum who also made stuff to sell and advertise there wares.

The premises being that you are meant to be a member of the forum and by that we mean someone who engages, interacts and contributes to the forum, and are here for purposes other than just advertising and selling your wares.

Please note you are not being singled out and are only one of multiple people being sent this message.

Either please change your ways and be more socially interactive and contribute to the forum in one way or another or we will have to address your future on here.
 
Regarding Sales Section Access – mattw975

We’d like to clarify the recent removal of sales section and Members Manufactured access for @mattw975. (Who isn't the only one may we add, a few lost access).

This action was taken only after multiple attempts to contact the member, including tagging him in a relevant thread and sending a private message over a week ago. (Also as mentioned above a private message warning in April 2023). Unfortunately, there was no response to either attempt. It was only after access was removed that a reply was finally received which we have just read.

The forum rules are clear: the primary use of the forum should not be for selling, whether as a private seller or through the Members Manufactured section. This is not a new rule, and it has been enforced consistently. Members within the Members Manufactured section have previously been warned about the need for broader participation across the forum.

There has been some discussion around donations and this being centred around money so we want to address this directly. Is it true that, in the past, a few occasional donations may have influenced how strictly participation requirements were enforced? Possibly. However, this is not a sustainable or fair approach, and we are committed to maintaining consistent standards going forward.

Ultimately, this is about contributing to the forum as a whole. If you are not engaging meaningfully beyond the sales sections, your access will be removed — regardless of your donation history, membership status, or post count. This policy has been in place for well over a year and applies equally to everyone, whether you have 100 posts or 3000.

We appreciate those who actively participate and help keep the forum thriving. Thank you for your understanding.

— The Airgun Forums Team
 
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