Buying Ammo with no certificate

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Quick question if I may.....

If you apply for a variation for whatever reason, you need to send off your cert at the same time, so you could not have one in your possession for months as the application is being processed. How do you buy ammo for your existing guns ? I assume you can't buy ammo using a copy of your cert?

Again it's not a situation I am in currently, but just expanding my knowledge.
 
JohnnyD said:
Quick question if I may.....

If you apply for a variation for whatever reason, you need to send off your cert at the same time, so you could not have one in your possession for months as the application is being processed. How do you buy ammo for your existing guns ? I assume you can't buy ammo using a copy of your cert?

Again it's not a situation I am in currently, but just expanding my knowledge.
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I'm afraid that being unable to produce an original certificate with suitable entries means no ammunition purchases are possible.
 
Max out beforehand
Reload

Not sure where the land lies with borrowing off a mate, probably illegal as its a simple way out of a hole that doesn't hurt anyone.
 
Buy in advance or reload.

Supposedly if someone else with same cal gifts you ammunition they're supposed to enter the transfer in table 2 of the FAC, but I've never seen anyone bother as all parties have known each other very well and know they have authority to possess. Technically you're supposed to check.
 
Or, if you are a Home Office club member and your club sells ammo, you can buy ammuntion from them as along as you keep/use it in the club.

PS I would strongly recommend NOT sending your FAC into the police as soon as you submit the variation, unless you have an efficient county. If they take months, its much preferable to wait until they start looking at your application and request you supply the FAC.
 
Redboat01 said:
Or, if you are a Home Office club member and your club sells ammo, you can buy ammuntion from them as along as you keep/use it in the club.

PS I would strongly recommend NOT sending your FAC into the police as soon as you submit the variation, unless you have an efficient county. If they take months, its much preferable to wait until they start looking at your application and request you supply the FAC.
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I tried that when I applied for the 22LR additions, and after I heard nothing for over 2 months, I emailed them, and they said I hadn't included my existing FAC with the application, so it couldn't be looked at until I did.......lost over 2 months with that :(
 
I don’t know about other licensing authorities but Warwickshire have always asked me to hold onto the certificate until the variation is approved and ready to be issued, they then phone and ask you to post or bring in your old certificate to swap it over.
 
As others have pointed out; contact them first, asking whether they want you to include it with application or wait until they ask for it. I'm with West Mids, and have always got a reply to politely worded emails.
 
GMP tell you to keep you old cert and have now started sending a letter in response to your renewal saying they will not be able to process the renewal in time (5 Months!) and to treat the letter as an 8 week extension and it covers you for buying ammo after your cert expires.
 
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Gwent you send photo copies of your certs and keep your old one until they need it
 
My FEO took my certs at the home visit . I bought my full hold limit of .22lr before sending in the application .

My renewal was done before the old certs expired though the new ones are only printed the day they expire.
 
I had a variation one for one, I kept my FAC, on completion of my variation they phone me and asked that I post my current cert back to them and on receiving they would send my new one out.
No worries that way with having no cert for ammo. Turn around was 7 weeks
Edit: OP was asking about a variation not a renewal
 
TVP post out a variation in about 4-6 weeks

You then destroy your old ticket.

Makes it much easier.

Another example of why we need a standardised system across the UK.

Take the best practices from all licensing teams and create a sensible pragmatic and safe system.

Much better than this bo**ocks people have to put up with dependent on their postcode ....
 
JohnnyD said:
Quick question if I may.....

If you apply for a variation for whatever reason, you need to send off your cert at the same time, so you could not have one in your possession for months as the application is being processed. How do you buy ammo for your existing guns ? I assume you can't buy ammo using a copy of your cert?

Again it's not a situation I am in currently, but just expanding my knowledge.
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Why on earth did you send them your Certificate?
 
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