Bsa ultra se to ts

[J13HNA]

Hi is there much difference between the ultra se and ts. I think the ts has a longer air tube but are parts interchangeable

 

[briane]

Hi is there much difference between the ultra se and ts. I think the ts has a longer air tube but are parts interchangeable

i thought the only difference was the ts is the tactical stock the se wood stock

 

[P8X]

Completely different action
Some of the internals may be universal but that's it

 

[briane]

Completely different action
Some of the internals may be universal but that's i

they look identical on pictures apart from the stock but ill trust in your knowledge

 

[Flashheart]

There is no spondoodle (cant think of the terminology) at the base of the barrel on the TS to hold the mag in place. I believe the mags have a magnet instead.

 

[foxtrott]

There is no spondoodle (cant think of the terminology) at the base of the barrel on the TS to hold the mag in place. I believe the mags have a magnet instead.

Hi it's more gamo than bsa ,yes the mag is magnetic like the gamo phox ,which is a very capable rifle.The barrel is a bsa the mag system is proven so all in all a good rifle and easy to maintain

 

[Hotwired]

What's a TS?

A design they made a while back and are selling again with some tweaks because it's cheaper and no one cares about the difference.

BSA Buccaneer SE
Gamo sells it as Coyote and Friends
BSA is now selling it again as Scorpion and Ultra. You might think it looks exactly like an Ultra SE because most gunshops re-used the image of an Ultra SE but if you look at a real one it is clearly a different gun.

 

[TD_boy]

Hi it's more gamo than bsa ,yes the mag is magnetic like the gamo phox ,which is a very capable rifle.The barrel is a bsa the mag system is proven so all in all a good rifle and easy to maintain

Both made in the same factory at BSA....

 

[Mattyw1987]

Definitely a step down from the se action, single cylinder, rougher/harder cocking and a plastic and magnetic mag holder no manual catch.

I think they’re okay just like the gamos but a step down for sure.

 

[Flashheart]

I like the look of the BSA Ultra TS.

It looks like a low maintenance gun you wouldn’t mind getting roughed up a bit out in the field and weather.

Definitely could be tempted at the right price.

 

[Richie#]

Have one in .25 cal have had many se and mmc ultras in the past ,still have 2mmc and an se,it's not a bad gun at all to be fair , same se/mmc trigger so should feel familiar to shoot , action may be cheaper but it works well with a good shot count

 

[Dodgyeye]

I have a BSA Ultra Se .177 single shot, my first pcp strip and rebuild and the finest pcp I own. I also have a Scorpion TS.

I understand the TS is designed and built to be a 12 ftlb air rifle from the off, the Ultra SE was not. In limiting the Scorpion ftlb it runs a 'valve' to give consistency and I've certainly found that with a 15 fps spread over 100 shots.

So I'm sure some parts are interchangeable, but why bother to find out.

I usually strip all my new rifles, but the Scorpion is one I haven't yet as it's spot on out the box.

If it ever needs a service I'll post the stripdown, but don't hold your breath, as it's run like clock work since I bought it.

 

[J13HNA]

There was a most off the action on ebay with the airtube gaiage and r10 trigger it was mainly the airtube I was intreasted in with it being longer

 

[apexzero]

I have the Scorpion TS. It is not just a rebadged Gamo - the trigger is upgraded, and appears to be the same unit as the Scorpion/Ultra SE.

The rest of the action does look the same as the Gamo/Buccaneer (it has a one-piece tube rather than different segments screwed together on the SE). Whether this is good or bad is up to you, all I can say is it gets the best part of 100 shots per fill in .177 which is not to be sneezed at.

 

[Gulo Luseus]

Im not sure if the scorpion TS is the same as th eUltra TS (I would assume so, as the scorpion i s usually just a bigger ultra) but the internals are flicking horrible. Mostly plastic, and I replaced most of mine with brass because of that. Wasnt impressed with the quality at all as it came, and it took a bit of work to get it up to a standard that I felt was acceptable. Its not bad as it comes, but I just dont like plastic on the inside when metal is a viable alternative that does a much better job.

 

[Titus]

Im not sure if the scorpion TS is the same as th eUltra TS (I would assume so, as the scorpion i s usually just a bigger ultra) but the internals are flicking horrible. Mostly plastic, and I replaced most of mine with brass because of that. Wasnt impressed with the quality at all as it came, and it took a bit of work to get it up to a standard that I felt was acceptable. Its not bad as it comes, but I just dont like plastic on the inside when metal is a viable alternative that does a much better job.

I'm not quite sure what you mean here. I've had a Scorpion TS for over 18 months and it's never let me down and is very accurate, ten .177 H&N FTT through a 7mm hole on the bench at 25 yards. I've also stripped it down and the only plastic I found was the magazine stop and part of front inlet valve everything else is steel and brass.

 

[Gulo Luseus]

I'm not quite sure what you mean here. I've had a Scorpion TS for over 18 months and it's never let me down and is very accurate, ten .177 H&N FTT through a 7mm hole on the bench at 25 yards. I've also stripped it down and the only plastic I found was the magazine stop and part of front inlet valve everything else is steel and brass.

Have a look round the bolt- its all plastic there.

 

[cloverleaf]

Broadly-speaking the designs are very similar, but next-to-no parts are interchangeable and it's clear to see where costs have been cut on the TS / Buccanneer platform.

While the BSA range seemed pretty disjointed a while ago now more of a strategy appears to be emerging; with the once-cohesive Ultra SE / Scorpion SE / R10 lineup (all of which were based on the same action) being shown the door in favour of a two-teir offering of cheaper buccanneer-based guns at the bottom of the range and the newer / superior-in-some-ways-and-not-in-others CLX platform at the top.

Have a look round the bolt- its all plastic there.

The bolt bearing is plastic, but so is it on the original / SE rifles. The striker bearing is plastic on both too.

I concur that the TS is inferior in pretty much every way, however.

 

[Titus]

Have a look round the bolt- its all plastic there.

If you mean the Delrin housing, BSA use the same material on all their bolts as far as I Know. Is this the component replaced with brass? I'd be interested to see pics of the parts, did you machine them yourself?