All rhe 22lr AR builds compared.

W_R said:
Interesting thread for me, I have been thinking about a Tippman or Simth & Western.
I'm leaning towards spending the extra for the Tippman but haven't actually had a look at one yet.
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I've probably said why the Smith is off my list earlier, but yeah it felt too light and a bit flimsy, it rattled a bit and I didn't even fire it!
I just knew if I bought it I'd always wish I'd got a metal one.
It's apparently a good rifle though, just not my thing.
 
Rich79 said:
I've probably said why the Smith is off my list earlier, but yeah it felt too light and a bit flimsy, it rattled a bit and I didn't even fire it!
I just knew if I bought it I'd always wish I'd got a metal one.
It's apparently a good rifle though, just not my thing.
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This is exactly my thinking aswell. I will go and have a look at the Tippman tomorrow, need some ammo anyway so it's an excuse for a trip to the shop.
 
The main thing being the ability of the shooter, a gun that feels right for you and functions instills confidence and you get better results. Have a look at the grsb speed steels results from Bisley meetings, I know the guy who has won on a few occasions, shot with him for 30 yrs.+ He shoots a Ruger 10 22 nothing special, but he puts the practice time in.
 
Sarge said:
@Rich79
My offer still stands.
Come on by and shoot one on our range, no obligation to buy. I also have rifles using both CMMG and M261 kits conversion kits for comparison (and an S&W or two to try, I'm not racist towards any black rifle ;)).
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Is it against the rules to mention the company name?
 
Rich79 said:
Id much prefer an all metal build, the S&W didn't really do much for me when I handled one a few years back, bit too lightweight for me, good build quality is another, if I do my bit with keeping it clean and feeding it good ammo I wouldn't want an inherent problem that a specific model has, eg the trigger pins and firing pin on the old Kriss, although I've heard they sorted that now.
I guess the ability to change/upgrade bits is a bonus, I wouldn't know if its required until I'd used it for a while but it's always best to have it and not need it than need it and not have it as they say.
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I went with Tippmann, for the same reasons.

I wanted a Smith until I handled one and it felt like an airsoft rifle. However they are reliable if you upgrade the extractor. The mags wear out though.

I looked at the Kriss but I'm sure the shop said it was a 10/22 in a different body (?). I just didn't like it.

I looked at and tried Lantac and custom builds etc. at our club but couldn't justify the extra cost and waiting time over the Tippmann. Most people that shoot speed steels and practical/mini rifle at our club use Tippmann. Mine has been faultless and I love it. I have won the last four mini rifle comps with mine.

There are aftermarket bits for the Tippmann - bigger mag releases, triggers etc. but you don't really need any of them. The only thing I changed on mine is the charging handle for a bigger one and I changed the furniture to Magpul just because of how I wanted it to look. It doesn't get very dirty, I just clean the breech, brush the dust off the magazines and spray them with silicone lube.
 
Jimbo Jones said:
I went with Tippmann, for the same reasons.

I wanted a Smith until I handled one and it felt like an airsoft rifle. However they are reliable if you upgrade the extractor. The mags wear out though.

I looked at the Kriss but I'm sure the shop said it was a 10/22 in a different body (?). I just didn't like it.

I looked at and tried Lantac and custom builds etc. at our club but couldn't justify the extra cost and waiting time over the Tippmann. Most people that shoot speed steels and practical/mini rifle at our club use Tippmann. Mine has been faultless and I love it. I have won the last four mini rifle comps with mine.

There are aftermarket bits for the Tippmann - bigger mag releases, triggers etc. but you don't really need any of them. The only thing I changed on mine is the charging handle for a bigger one and I changed the furniture to Magpul just because of how I wanted it to look. It doesn't get very dirty, I just clean the breech, brush the dust off the magazines and spray them with silicone lube.
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I do really like the fact its got a last round hold open that stays open while changing mags, then use the proper AR bolt release.
 
Rich79 said:
I do really like the fact its got a last round hold open that stays open while changing mags, then use the proper AR bolt release.
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Only this week I fitted a Catch-22 bolt hold open to a rifle (my first :p), and it seems to work. I did have to replace the catch spring with a lighter one as the change in catch geometry meant the magazine spring wasn't quite strong enough to always operate the catch.
It does mean the lower won't work directly with a .223 upper, but that's a small job to swap out.

It works well with S&W mags I haven't had time to try it out with the CMMG style mags.
 
Having looked at the Tippman last weekend I impressed with the build quality.

I'm considering this build,

https://www.donaldson-guns.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=78&product_id=9382669

This price includes a moderator but I will not be having one of those as I currently do not have a slot on my ticket so the price is about £150 cheaper.

Any advice on buying this vs buying a standard gun and adding the upgraded parts myself would be appreciated?
The price of all the upgrades individually seems to very close to the listed price from my research.
 
The upgraded parts seem to be a stock, grip, foregrip and Vortex LVPO scope.

All of the parts are dead easy to change over yourself.

Have you seen/tried the stock and grips that they fit, because the picture shows a standard Elite-LF rifle. You may find that there is better furniture or optics on the market to suit the type of shooting you are going to use it for.
 
W_R said:
Any advice on buying this vs buying a standard gun and adding the upgraded parts myself would be appreciated?
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I agree with @Jimbo Jones. Angled forgrip is handy. Stocks and grips are a bit of a personal preference. I've found there is a Magpul version which has a lock that makes it a bit more solid.

A large chunk of that extra money is going into the Vortex Venom 1-6 and the cantilever mount. A cantilever mount for a scope mounted on an AR-15 is really needed to get the scope into the right position. Have a look at the video below to see why. For the scope itself, if you are going to be shooting standing then it would be a good choice. It gets a good review:


Just bear in mind you are not getting massive magnification so if you are shooting from a bench and want to see where each shot is going, it may not be be right for you. But in that case, I would say the rifle is not right either :)

Overally, it looks like a thought through package, so I don't think you would be making a mistake if you got it.
 
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When I got my CMMG the pricing for the handguard options were eye watering, FAB defence were around £250+ as were the other options

I fell lucky and managed to get a UTG quad rail one for £58 delivered from the states via eBay
 
Thank you guys appreciate the feed back, I have tried the stock and pistol grip it was on the gun when I had a look.

I don't need massive magnification as I'm only going to be shooting around 20 yards.
 
S&W 15-22 is still a nice bit of kit. I only ever get stoppages with sub-sonics. I plan to put the Arken 1-8x28mm on it at some point.

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Nords said:
Just tried logging into my Olight account and the password is wrong (I’m in Kashmir, India and cannot get a text to confirm a reset). However I’m certain it is an Odin S

Nords said:
Just tried logging into my Olight account and the password is wrong (I’m in Kashmir, India and cannot get a text to confirm a reset). However I’m certain it is an Odin S

www.olightstore.uk

Odin S Rail Mounted Light - Olight UK

Odin S Rail Mounted Light
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Nords said:
Just tried logging into my Olight account and the password is wrong (I’m in Kashmir, India and cannot get a text to confirm a reset). However I’m certain it is an Odin S

www.olightstore.uk

Odin S Rail Mounted Light - Olight UK

Odin S Rail Mounted Light
www.olightstore.uk www.olightstore.uk

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Great stuff, many thanks Nords.
 
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