Air arms s510R sporter ultimate.

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After some thought I think I'm going to go down the rd of buying an immaculate or near as possible to very good condition used PCP.
I've seen the above gun in .177 with a high end Nikon scope around the £900 mark.
Not entirely sure why this model has the 'R' letter after the 510 but the rifle doesn't look that old to me & represents a big saving on new.

I shouldered an AGT VIXEN but didn't get the smile on my face that the above rifle gave me!.
 
After some thought I think I'm going to go down the rd of buying an immaculate or near as possible to very good condition used PCP.
I've seen the above gun in .177 with a high end Nikon scope around the £900 mark.
Not entirely sure why this model has the 'R' letter after the 510 but the rifle doesn't look that old to me & represents a big saving on new.

I shouldered an AGT VIXEN but didn't get the smile on my face that the above rifle gave me!.
Hi mate the "R" means it's regulated.

Cheers
 
The R denotes regulated. £900 is top price for a private second hand sale but ok if it’s from an RFD.

I use one for HFT and love it.
 
The R denotes regulated. £900 is top price for a private second hand sale but ok if it’s from an RFD.

I use one for HFT and love it.
The TX 200 I use is a dedicated left hand stock which suits me great... This s500R says right handed which is strange in the sense that I've not seen any of this particular model that say ambidextrous 🤔.
 
The Air arms web site says the ultimate sporter's stock is ambi. You can't swap the cocking lever over like you can in some rifles.
I have the 510TR same action different stock and it's amazing.
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The Air arms web site says the ultimate sporter's stock is ambi. You can't swap the cocking lever over like you can in some rifles.
I have the 510TR same action different stock and it's amazing.
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I shot the same rifle as yours yesterday... very very impressed, it had a top end Nikko scope on 👍.
 
As @Davo has said, the stocks are ambidextrous the action isn’t. Whilst I liked the AA laminate stock I’ve now got mine sitting in an Aeron chassis.
Very nice mate 👍.
I am mainly a right handed person so the action on the right suits just fine!... I'm just bloody weird that I shoot left handed 😂.
 
After some thought I think I'm going to go down the rd of buying an immaculate or near as possible to very good condition used PCP.
I've seen the above gun in .177 with a high end Nikon scope around the £900 mark.
Not entirely sure why this model has the 'R' letter after the 510 but the rifle doesn't look that old to me & represents a big saving on new.

I shouldered an AGT VIXEN but didn't get the smile on my face that the above rifle gave me!.

Be careful before you commit as there’s issues with the Air Arms ‘R’ regulator and at some point it will cause you problems.

I’m in the process of replacing a regulator on exactly the same model at the moment and they aren’t cheap.

The issue lies with the machined Peak sealing face which where it seats in the brass piston will eventually fail. I haven’t been able to work out yet whether the Peak wears the brass or the other way round, however it results in the sealing face moving around and not giving a consistent seal.

The way to test whether the regulator is working correctly is to fill the cylinder to 200 bar. Fire a shot and note the power, fire off enough shots to get it down to around 160 bar, then do leave ten to fifteen minutes fire it again and note the power. Then do the same at 120 bar and finally 100 bar. You can leave smaller gaps between the test shots, however you must rest the gun before you’re going to test fire as you want the reg to creep, if you get an increase in velocity as the cylinder pressure lowers then the regulator isn’t working correctly. If it’s not working, in all likelihood air is escaping past the sealing face into the prechamber and the increased or higher pressure on the rear of the valve is leading lower velocities. As the pressure in the cylinder decreases as does the pressure on the rear of the valve and it stays open longer and the velocity will increase.

Personally I wouldn’t bother with any Air Arms gun with the ‘R’ regulator in it until the issues are sorted out. If you like the gun design then go for a standard non-regulated version, it’ll be cheaper, just as consistent if you run it through its most efficient pressure operating band and you won’t get the reliability issues.

I’ve made a few replacement regulator pistons, one for @bob4026 which alleviate the design issue, however I don’t have a reg tester for them, although @Fatbob 59 has promised to make me one in his machine shop! 😉 However, the answer is to not get a regulated version.
 
When I changed the firing pin in my gun I gave it a whole cylinder test worth of pellets , From start to finish there was only a 14 fps spread, with no mag of ten shots ever having more of a spread of 8 fps , most of them were 5 or 6 fps , totally unsorted pellets as well , be lucky to get that close figures with a regged gun (y) I don't expect it's that good anymore , it was one of the new softer firing pin valve types so I expect its started to leave a lip by now 😥
 
When I changed the firing pin in my gun I gave it a whole cylinder test worth of pellets , From start to finish there was only a 14 fps spread, with no mag of ten shots ever having more of a spread of 8 fps , most of them were 5 or 6 fps , totally unsorted pellets as well , be lucky to get that close figures with a regged gun (y) I don't expect it's that good anymore , it was one of the new softer firing pin valve types so I expect its started to leave a lip by now 😥
I'll not buy anything at this rate 😔 😭 .
One of my other original choices was a new Daystate revere ' safari ' which many seem to rate ..such a nice lightweight rifle & I reckon with a quality scope would be a super hunting & rifle range gun.
 
I'll not buy anything at this rate 😔 😭 .
One of my other original choices was a new Daystate revere ' safari ' which many seem to rate ..such a nice lightweight rifle & I reckon with a quality scope would be a super hunting & rifle range gun.
Or buy both 😋

Although I went for the Safari stock as an add on to my bolt action Huntsman.
 

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I'll not buy anything at this rate 😔 😭 .
One of my other original choices was a new Daystate revere ' safari ' which many seem to rate ..such a nice lightweight rifle & I reckon with a quality scope would be a super hunting & rifle range gun.
The difference being on AGF you'll get good honest help and free advice (y), some people buy a single gun and never do much to it at all and the gun never misses a beat , others buy something and as much as they do to it, the gun just has little niggles about it , when I serviced that S510, the new firing valve and a complete "O" ring change , it was more consistant than my HW100 , big difference in shot capacity , but in a hunting situation you'd never need that many shots , The S510 is a very light gun compared to some of the others in my collection, HW100, the TX and 2 x HW97's all weigh more than the S510 , I don't have any Daystate guns so can't comment , you'll also get haters of their range of guns , I've heard some people refer to them as Dayleaks ?

I'm trying not to buy anymore guns, I can't regularly shoot what I have got at the moment due to my past/recent work commitments, but sometimes you get a weak moment and that bargain just pops up Homer face palmHomer face palmHomer face palm
 
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