Bill.B
Member Extraordinaire
Thanks for that.No, you would still have to sign up with TNT if you wanted access.
Otherwise you need an iptv provider and a VPN, then.......
It seems too complicated for me so I'll give it a miss.
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Advice on using a VPN.
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It seems too complicated for me so I'll give it a miss.
Mav617
Super member
Get an Amazon firestick, get IPTV, get a VPN and the worlds your lobster.........Thanks for that.
Moz58
Member Extraordinaire
Surfshark is good you pay for 6 months and you can have a few devices
Captain_Saxa
Member Extraordinaire
No, a VPN is just a convenient way to hide who you are. It doesn't just give access to anything. But...
If you are going to be up to naughties like that (maybe by using a dodgy firestick) you should use one to make yourself next ot impossible to identify.
Bazzatron
Proactive member
You have to be careful with this idea - like sure, it might be technically true, but imagine trying to hide your identity with a mask that is sold only by one shop, and you have to hand over your ID at that one shop to buy it, and they keep a record of the places you wear the mask.
Paying for your VPN with crypto/disposable card goes some way to ensuring that the VPN provider doesn't know who you are directly, but even that isn't 100% certain to hide you, as they might log your address and what address they presented to the internet - and this could be backwards engineered to find you because all of those addresses are linked to a provider, and they know who you are; so you need to use a provider that does not log anything - and even THEN you're relying on their word and their word alone.
As far as stuff like the online safety bill goes, VPN tricks the other end into thinking that you're coming from a country without the pearl clutching act 1984, and really they have no financial incentive to "beat" your VPN and see where you really are. Doesn't really hide you any more than being three kids in a trenchcoat sneaking past a disinterested teenager at the box office.
I'm not an offensive web specialist, so this isn't directly my area of expertise, but really you only need to peek behind the curtain a little to see how thin of a disguise a VPN really is.
Bazzatron
Proactive member
aww jeez, resurrecting a 2 year old thread.
Mea Culpa.
Mea Culpa.
Mike Woody Watkins
Member Extraordinaire
So, in plain English so l can understand it, what does a VPN do?
Nord for me, about £100 for 2 years subscription but remember to uncheck auto renewal.
Basically, it changes your IP address - the unique number assigned to your router & hence home computers - so that to the internet you appear to be somewhere else, perhaps in a foreign country.
Quote; "A VPN (Virtual Private Network) is a secure, encrypted connection between your device and a remote server over the internet, which masks your IP address, hides your online activity from snoops, and protects your data from being intercepted on untrusted networks like public Wi-Fi. VPNs allow you to bypass geographical content restrictions, maintain privacy, and provide secure remote access to corporate networks, offering a safer, more private online experience."
There's a guide to setting up a totally free VPN here;
Bish
Super member
if this, or other sites block you when using a VPN, you can get round this by using a P2P (peer to peer) connection. This *might* be useful trying to stream TV from American Netflix say, where Nwtflix block known IP addresses. The P2P IP address is unknown and therefore not blocked
Boba323
Member
That really depends on the Vpn provider, and the country they operate in. Nord for example are no log providers, so they don't keep logs of which user is on which address, so even if they're told to hand over all they have on you, it'll basically be name, address, payment card, subscription. If a no log provider had a limit on unique devices, rather than concurrent connections, then they'd need an identifier for each device, and the fact it's connected, but they still don't need to identify which address it was given.
It's by no means perfect but I definitely wouldn't say it's equivalent to 3 kids in a trench coat.
Obviously you have to rely on their word, but I doubt it's worth lying about, as if one person gets caught out because they lied, then their reputation goes to pot, and people may well be able to sue.
Proton is similar, but at the moment also benefits from Switzerland's privacy rules, although that might change soon, hopefully not.
I'm surprised there's nobody in here saying "If you've got nothing to hide, then what's the problem", because somehow our normal lives don't deserve privacy.
Mike Woody Watkins
Member Extraordinaire
Excellent many thanks for that. One question though, apart from masking an IP address, what does it do that a good anti virus or malware program doesn’t do? (Asking for a friend
)Boba323
Member
Nothing really, a vpn is basically a privacy tool or a way to connect back to a different network (for example working from home, accessing company files can be done via the company vpn, as you're then essentially at work as far as the company network knows), but if you visit a dodgy site that has a virus, you'll still get that virus.Excellent many thanks for that. One question though, apart from masking an IP address, what does it do that a good anti virus or malware program doesn’t do? (Asking for a friend
Some of the vpn providers do have tools built in to help with this, but the vpn itself isn't designed as a way to stop malware.
NordVPN is pretty clever in this aspect but I don't think any VPN is 100% safe.
ReSyC
Super member
I've had that same discussion with people and always respond to it by mentioning curtains.
They say "I'm not bothered because I have nothing to hide" - it's not about hiding, it's about privacy. If you ask them if they close their curtains when it gets dark and they put the lights on, they will always say yes so ask them why
Are you hiding something? Are you up to something dodgy? No? Then why close the curtains? Simply privacy. You aren't hiding anything, you just don't want to be watched
subzeer0
Super member
may as well add Tor browser into the chat...or startpage as the search engine
Captain_Saxa
Member Extraordinaire
This is a fantastic analogy.I've had that same discussion with people and always respond to it by mentioning curtains.
They say "I'm not bothered because I have nothing to hide" - it's not about hiding, it's about privacy. If you ask them if they close their curtains when it gets dark and they put the lights on, they will always say yes so ask them why
Are you hiding something? Are you up to something dodgy? No? Then why close the curtains? Simply privacy. You aren't hiding anything, you just don't want to be watched
Mike Woody Watkins
Member Extraordinaire
Thanks for reply, l now understand it a lot better
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