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This is no longer the country I once knew

Cannon Fodder said:
Since so many of you think you could do a better job of running the country, do it. £500 deposit to stand as a candidate to be an MP at the next election, since you only need to get 5% of the vote to not lose your deposit and you're all so convinced your way would be so superior at least 1 in 20 must agree with you and you won't lose it. Then you could sort this mess you've perceived the country is in. That or just keep complaining about it on the interweb.
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Become a politician? Why? They are hell bent on filling their own pockets whilst making a mockery of British democracy! With their lies and corruption, and operating above the law, most of their law breaking stays hidden. Ones dirty little secret covered by another’s. Periodically there’s a sacrificial lamb that we are allowed to vilify, one that might claim over £11,000 from the tax payer on iPad roaming charges whilst on holiday or another that thought it was ok to sexually grope other men in office like a ‘pound shop Harvey Weinstein’. Or perhaps place a bet on the date of the next general election before it goes public using inside information with your boss as the Prime Minister or watch porno several times whilst sitting on duty in the House of Commons. They make my skin crawl, filthy, dirty animals…. And you think one of us joining this lot would what?

Threads like this unify and strengthen. And do you seriously think that these boat people are not in communication with each other forming their own agenda? They have smart phones, they ain’t using smoke signals. People need to wake up…. It’s like a war of attrition for them, slowly chipping away at the very fabric of our society.
 
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Arley said:
The worst thing is it's kept quiet as they know the outrage could undermine their narative and horror, the truth come out, despite legislation telling us what we canand canot say.

Haven't we sen this before in History in Germany, China and USSR.
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And who knows were,even as we type.
 
Grey Man said:
Unfortunately the average Tory voter is hopelessly out of date - it's the 21st century, not the turn of the 20th. They see the Liberals as soft Conservatives, when in reality they are the extreme left of the Labour Party.
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The reason the Liberals won the seat this time was down to two reasons i think:
the electorate or much of them had become so disenchanted with the Tories and because there has been boundary or constituency changes. It used to part of North Wilts constituency which included Malmesbury and the surrounding areas but now it's been linked to Chippenham constituency.
 
The challenge we all seem to sit with is that it is easier and quicker to do damage during a term in power than what it is to undo the damage, if the damage can even be undone.

Locally as an example, the cANCer has raped and plundered the country for 3 decades now, without building or maintaining anything but their expensive houses and bank accounts, and bellies of course.
Even if the best political party since sliced bread takes over now, they might never be able to undo the damage.

As an example, we have national, provincial and local governments.

The major ruling party, the cANCer, is in charge nationally, continuing the downward spiral and picking up the pace.

In cases where they were in charge provincially but another party took over in the last elections, some big challenges remain:
- The damage is vast, it will take decades to undo, even if possible.
- A lot of the public servants who now work for them still support the national, failing government, which means the culture remains, making it really difficult to get things done.
This means little is achieved during a term before the next elections.

A province and city which has been run by the currently largest opposition party is mostly managed well, and things get done, but even that is slowly eroded over time and things slowly slip, the influx of people wanting to live there adding to the challenges.

I fear, globally, too much damage and decay is already in place that is irreversible.

This might seem harsh, but I often think the only possible solution is a big reset.

Generally, even though I recognise all the sh!t around us, I choose to focus on the positives in life and live around that.
For now, it seems to work OK, but who knows for how long.

A big local concern for me is the new expropriation of property without compensation law over here.
Many think it is just about land, but the word 'land' is not used, the word 'property' is, i.e., any property.
That to me is scary AF, no matter who the government of the day is.
 
Kola said:
The challenge we all seem to sit with is that it is easier and quicker to do damage during a term in power than what it is to undo the damage, if the damage can even be undone.

Locally as an example, the cANCer has raped and plundered the country for 3 decades now, without building or maintaining anything but their expensive houses and bank accounts, and bellies of course.
Even if the best political party since sliced bread takes over now, they might never be able to undo the damage.

As an example, we have national, provincial and local governments.

The major ruling party, the cANCer, is in charge nationally, continuing the downward spiral and picking up the pace.

In cases where they were in charge provincially but another party took over in the last elections, some big challenges remain:
- The damage is vast, it will take decades to undo, even if possible.
- A lot of the public servants who now work for them still support the national, failing government, which means the culture remains, making it really difficult to get things done.
This means little is achieved during a term before the next elections.

A province and city which has been run by the currently largest opposition party is mostly managed well, and things get done, but even that is slowly eroded over time and things slowly slip, the influx of people wanting to live there adding to the challenges.

I fear, globally, too much damage and decay is already in place that is irreversible.

This might seem harsh, but I often think the only possible solution is a big reset.

Generally, even though I recognise all the sh!t around us, I choose to focus on the positives in life and live around that.
For now, it seems to work OK, but who knows for how long.

A big local concern for me is the new expropriation of property without compensation law over here.
Many think it is just about land, but the word 'land' is not used, the word 'property' is, i.e., any property.
That to me is scary AF, no matter who the government of the day is.
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It has to be possible to get our once great country back on track.

Just look at the other side of the pond. Donald Trump is delivering on his election promises and the globalists are quaking. What we need is an inspirational leader in a similar vein. The popular vote is out there. We just need someone to harness it.
 
Kola said:
The challenge we all seem to sit with is that it is easier and quicker to do damage during a term in power than what it is to undo the damage, if the damage can even be undone.

Locally as an example, the cANCer has raped and plundered the country for 3 decades now, without building or maintaining anything but their expensive houses and bank accounts, and bellies of course.
Even if the best political party since sliced bread takes over now, they might never be able to undo the damage.

As an example, we have national, provincial and local governments.

The major ruling party, the cANCer, is in charge nationally, continuing the downward spiral and picking up the pace.

In cases where they were in charge provincially but another party took over in the last elections, some big challenges remain:
- The damage is vast, it will take decades to undo, even if possible.
- A lot of the public servants who now work for them still support the national, failing government, which means the culture remains, making it really difficult to get things done.
This means little is achieved during a term before the next elections.

A province and city which has been run by the currently largest opposition party is mostly managed well, and things get done, but even that is slowly eroded over time and things slowly slip, the influx of people wanting to live there adding to the challenges.

I fear, globally, too much damage and decay is already in place that is irreversible.

This might seem harsh, but I often think the only possible solution is a big reset.

Generally, even though I recognise all the sh!t around us, I choose to focus on the positives in life and live around that.
For now, it seems to work OK, but who knows for how long.

A big local concern for me is the new expropriation of property without compensation law over here.
Many think it is just about land, but the word 'land' is not used, the word 'property' is, i.e., any property.
That to me is scary AF, no matter who the government of the day is.
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The west is now at the equivalent stage of the 5th century Roman Empire.
Ok, the "sacking of Rome" event is taking place gradually and the vehicle of choice is the rubber dinghy rather than the chariot, but the result will be the same.

Western Europe as we know it might stagger on as fragmented enclaves for a century or two but basically it's finished.
The people in charge know it and are possibly even facilitating it for personal gain, they are running round the Titanic dining room stuffing their pockets with silverware.
The managed decline will continue, I honestly think it's past the point of no return.
I'm afraid it's up to places like America, Australia, Canada and New Zealand to try and keep something of our culture alive now.
Hope they remember us in their history books in a few hundred years time and I hope some of my descendants are over there reading it.
Even if they are, they will probably regard us as weak idiots for letting this happen.
 
John M said:
It has to be possible to get our once great country back on track.

Just look at the other side of the pond. Donald Trump is delivering on his election promises and the globalists are quaking. What we need is an inspirational leader in a similar vein. The popular vote is out there. We just need someone to harness it.
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How long will he be there before someone else gets to undo a lot or at least some of what he is doing again now?
That circle continues, and with that the gradual decay that we see.

Not sure you actually read my post you quoted...
 
John M said:
It has to be possible to get our once great country back on track.

Just look at the other side of the pond. Donald Trump is delivering on his election promises and the globalists are quaking. What we need is an inspirational leader in a similar vein. The popular vote is out there. We just need someone to harness it.
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America always had it's constitution to fall back on as a line that couldn't be crossed when it came to controling and oppressing it's people.
We never had that, and it shows.
Our 'rights' are granted by people with political ideology and ulterior motives. They can take them away just as fast as they can give them out and there is not a damn thing we can do about it. Even voting doesn't help as any manifesto you vote on the strength of inevitably turns out to be a pack of lies, you might as well just toss a coin to decide who to vote for.
 
Neil123 said:
America always had it's constitution to fall back on as a line that couldn't be crossed when it came to controling and oppressing it's people.
We never had that, and it shows.
Our 'rights' are granted by people with political ideology and ulterior motives. They can take them away just as fast as they can give them out and there is not a damn thing we can do about it. Even voting doesn't help as any manifesto you vote on the strength of inevitably turns out to be a pack of lies, you might as well just toss a coin to decide who to vote for.
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We also have a constitution, but some days I am not sure it is worth whatever it was written on.

At best, over here, it slows them down a bit.

The US constitution at least seems to be respected more.
 
Kola said:
How long will he be there before someone else gets to undo a lot or at least some of what he is doing again now?
That circle continues, and with that the gradual decay that we see.

Not sure you actually read my post you quoted...
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Well, DOGE is getting rid of the old and future hires will be based on meritocracy rather than DEI, so there should be a foundation to build far better government departments than has been the case of late. Trump is also appointing the right people to run said departments.

Our American cousins can see the good that Trump is doing and his popularity has reached 53% in one poll a few days ago (compared with Biden, who was polling in the 30s). In fact, DJT's popularity is increasing by the day as he is delivering on his promise to Make America Great Again.

The GOP mustn't take their eye off the ball though, as you say in case a future administration rolls back on all the good this one is achieving.
 
Neil123 said:
America always had it's constitution to fall back on as a line that couldn't be crossed when it came to controling and oppressing it's people.
We never had that, and it shows.
Our 'rights' are granted by people with political ideology and ulterior motives. They can take them away just as fast as they can give them out and there is not a damn thing we can do about it. Even voting doesn't help as any manifesto you vote on the strength of inevitably turns out to be a pack of lies, you might as well just toss a coin to decide who to vote for.
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You're right about the U.S. constitution.

However, the U.K. needs to wake up before it's too late and our once great country has been given away without a fight.

There are some encouraging signs in that many more people are today waking up to what is going on around them and calling this out. Just a few short years ago most of what has been discussed on this thread would have been considered racist hate speech, when all we are doing is citing examples and facts.

The Tories have a lot to answer for as their incompetence is indirectly responsible for the shower we currently have governing us and this should never be forgotten when they next come along canvassing for votes, full of promises they have no intention of keeping.

As much as I am disappointed with Nigel Farage of late, Reform are currently the only option for us to support when local and national elections are next held.
 
The thing is, it has been over a century since we had anything other than a Labour or Conservative government. (Lloyd George 1916-22). Effectively, we have a two party system, and it will take cataclysmic change to get anything else. The two parties we do have, have both moved towards the centre by so much as to be almost indistinguishable. I remember catching a bit of a televised debate between the three "main" parties several years ago. There was Cameron, Miliband, and Kennedy, standing in a line. All wearing virtually identical suits, shirts and shoes, the only difference was red, blue, and yellow ties as required. I hated Thatcher, and Kinnock was ineffectual at best, but at least you know which side they were on, and they spoke like they held opinions, rather than just seeking votes. I'd like to see change, but I have very little hope.....
 
I know not the nuances of your political system & may be out of line here...however, I see mention of a few, who' ve not bothered to vote. By not casting your ballot, you are part of the problem, rather than part of the solution. Apathy never changed anything for the better, only the worse. " Your American Cousins" , en masse, showed up at the polls & voted to rid ourselves of feckless, backward, virtue signalling idiocy & ststus quo. Our chosen leader is now on the march to stamp out corruption, grift & useless spending - y'all could do the same.
 
chouchin66 said:
I know not the nuances of your political system & may be out of line here...however, I see mention of a few, who' ve not bothered to vote. By not casting your ballot, you are part of the problem, rather than part of the solution. Apathy never changed anything for the better, only the worse. " Your American Cousins" , en masse, showed up at the polls & voted to rid ourselves of feckless, backward, virtue signalling idiocy & ststus quo. Our chosen leader is now on the march to stamp out corruption, grift & useless spending - y'all could do the same.
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I disagree,
And it absolutely is NOT apathy, it's rejection of all options after careful consideration.
For your vote to make a difference there has to be a party worth voting for.
One that represents your values.
I'm sick of trying to work out which one is the least terrible and voting for that one just to keep the others out.

I've made this comparison on here before, I know I have, but at the risk of repeating myself here goes,

If you had to choose between a kick in the right shin and a kick in the left shin, would you choose.
Something unpleasant is going to happen whether you do or don't.
If you choose then the person delivering the kick can say "this was your choice, you asked for this, I'm only carrying out your wishes"

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