Using RFD to RFD for sub 12 rifle

[Buglecall]

When using RFD to RFD to post a rifle sold on the forum what does it entail?
I would use my local RFD and the buyer would need to give me his prefered RFD?
I would box my rifle up prior or does my RFD need to check the contents?
Do i address the box with buyers details or give that to my RFD?
Have no idea of the process,looked on the sales section but nothing on there about details.
Would like to get a idea before i go

 

[jeffsky]

I can only advise on the RFD i have used to do this, what he wanted was me to box the rifle up but not seal it, when i got to him he had a check of the seral no and that the gun was empty or air then he taped the box up, i gave him the address and contact name of the rfd it was going to and my name and address and the fee job done this may be different to others, i have only used the one

 

[JonM]

Ask the RFDs what each one wants you to do - then do that!

Personally, for 2nd hand sales between private owners, as it's 100% legal to mail directly to the buyer, that's what I tend to do.
Saves 2 extra layers of bureaucracy/administration and expense plus it's usually faster.

 

[adamA]

My local rfd charges £25 for them and then £25 for the postage, the rifle has to be in a case not a bag, not sure if then the receiving rfd would also charge a fee

 

[duracellAA]

Why are you using an RFD i usually just post it parcel force 48 or even 24 as it is tracked, if asked what is in it I tell them sporting goods. Never had an issue and you can also insure it if you want.

 

[zogg364]

The advantage of using an RFD is you are covered on their insurance to the full value if anything goes wrong

If parcel force lose or damage an expensive rifle then compensation is minimal.

Smaller packages can be sent specially delivery with as compensation up to the full value

Factor in about 50 pounds from your dealer and the other RFD will charge their own amount to the buyer when they collect… my dealer will package and send for the £50.00 charge

If for instance you post a two grand rifle and it gets lost you will receive £150.00 max in compensation with parcel force, you will also need to provide proof of goods and value to make the claim so telling them it was a couple of golf clubs will leave you skint and open to a fraud charge

On a plus point I have sent dozens of guns by parcel force 48 and they have never lost or damaged anything

 

[Trumpetier]

you can also insure it if you want.

They may take your money to add extra insurance, but you still won't be covered for more than £150

 

[Gulo Luseus]

As above, check with your rfd how he wants it brought to him. Bear in mind that it’s not a quick process, as both rfds have to give info to each other such as rfd licence. And paperwork can take a while.
I’m lucky with mine as he’s cheaper than many, but have a word with yours and if they are half decent they will give you all the info you need.

@duracellAA - for anything over a few 100 rfd transfer is a better option for many. I’ve sent a lot through the post and never had a problem, but for something worth a grand or so I wouldn’t want to take the risk of loss or that wh it damage. You don’t have sales access, but when you do and you read the rules you’ll see that seller is responsible for any damage or loss when sellling here. Much rather a bit more money going out than losing it all.

 

[Christoph1945]

Ask the RFDs what each one wants you to do - then do that!

Personally, for 2nd hand sales between private owners, as it's 100% legal to mail directly to the buyer, that's what I tend to do.
Saves 2 extra layers of bureaucracy/administration and expense plus it's usually faster.

And safer???

 

[duracellAA]

They may take your money to add extra insurance, but you still won't be covered for more than £150

Yes, insurance will cost you but there will be RFD costs plus the hassle of dropping it off and the other person collecting it. Parcel force is a lot more convenient for most people.

 

[Christoph1945]

They may take your money to add extra insurance, but you still won't be covered for more than £150

 

[Christoph1945]

The whole process of selling on ones kit appears to be something of a minefield. RFD, post, parcel, and face to face all have their nightmare stories.

 

[That hurts]

Why are you using an RFD i usually just post it parcel force 48 or even 24 as it is tracked, if asked what is in it I tell them sporting goods. Never had an issue and you can also insure it if you want.

Yes, insurance will cost you but there will be RFD costs plus the hassle of dropping it off and the other person collecting it. Parcel force is a lot more convenient for most people.

If you use PF48, the maximum compensation the RM will pay out is £150, so there is absolutely no point in paying for additional cover despite what you may be told by the P.O. womble.

The only way you can insure to the full value of the gun is by sending RMSD and meeting the package size criteria.

 

[duracellAA]

If you use PF48, the maximum compensation the RM will pay out is £150, so there is absolutely no point in paying for additional cover despite what you may be told by the P.O. womble.

The only way you can insure to the full value of the gun is by sending RMSD and meeting the package size criteria.

Thanks for the heads up, I will stop wasting my money on insurance.

 

[Bighit]

Going by RFD can have the insurance enhanced. Last time I got a quote it was £25 for upto £250 value and £45 for upto £2500 but that was years ago.

There is Secursus who do insurance and cover airguns at their discretion . https://www.secursus.com/en-gb/

You would need to follow their trerms and the couriers terms to the letter and some won't do it as they claim putting fragile for example is an open invitation to have the item thrown about .

 

[insertusernamehere]

My understanding is the insurance can no longer be enhanced via an RFD since they all now (or the majority at least) use parcel force as the old courier (TNT?) no longer carry firearms

This is based on my own recent (this year) experience only, so could be incorrect or maybe it depends on the contract the RFD has with parcelfarce

I for one will continue to post directly with PF or ideally special delivery whenever possible

 

[Bighit]

My understanding is the insurance can no longer be enhanced via an RFD since they all now (or the majority at least) use parcel force as the old courier (TNT?) no longer carry firearms

This is based on my own recent (this year) experience only, so could be incorrect or maybe it depends on the contract the RFD has with parcelfarce

I for one will continue to post directly with PF or ideally special delivery whenever possible

They could have a third party insurance like Secursus. I'm not sure if the one I spoke had a third party insurance or if it was via RM/PF.

 

[Bighit]

Also don't forget when sending scopes , not all couriers give you insurance for them.

A lot will exclude optical equipment and a scope is optical equipment.

Evri is one who don't give you insurance so check the terms of who you wish to use .

 

[Randomone]

My understanding is the insurance can no longer be enhanced via an RFD since they all now (or the majority at least) use parcel force as the old courier (TNT?) no longer carry firearms

This is based on my own recent (this year) experience only, so could be incorrect or maybe it depends on the contract the RFD has with parcelfarce

I for one will continue to post directly with PF or ideally special delivery whenever possible

If the RFD has a trade account with PF, then I think the guns value is fully covered - or, at least, that was the situation. If the RFD didn't have such an account, you might as well have sent it yourself as it would have been cheaper and no less secure.

 

[Bighit]

They RFD can use PF24 with exemptions where as the public can't, they can only us PF48 despite what some have said in the past .

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• Section 1 and Section 2 firearms, low-powered airguns, imitation firearms, antique firearms, and paintball guns may be permitted for zone 1 to 1 on express secure 10, AM, 48 services; deliveries to zones 2 and 3 must be on an express48 service and include ‘do not air uplift’ sticker on the parcel.
• Inert projectiles (not prohibited by s5 of the Firearms Act 1968 as amended) may be permitted on express48 service only.
• Customers may only despatch low powered air weapons for the purpose of repair in accordance with UK law.

Some think the bit in bold allows them to send them PF24 in a private sale . It does not . One Tuner apparently told people they could send them PF24 but I think the person then thought it allowed him to do it with a private sale and he was advising people on here to do the same .

Just because some one says you can , always check the terms of the carrier as I doubt all the people who advise you and its wrong will recompense you if it goes wrong and you end up out of pocket.