Shotgun Licensing Consultation

All done just hope it go's in our favour i suspect they will all just go with the crowd because of fear in loosing there job
 
The Countryside Alliance needs you to take part in a new e-lobby as part of its campaign to safeguard the future of shooting in England, Scotland and Wales. The government is preparing to consult on restricting shotgun ownership by aligning parts of firearms licensing legislation. This would have huge impacts on the shooting community, the rural economy and conservation, without improving public safety. We need everyone who loves shooting and the countryside to take part.

This e-lobby allows you to directly contact your MP and let them know:

  • What impact the government’s proposals will really have.
  • The many benefits of shooting, that are now under threat.
  • The alternative and necessary actions the government should take to maximise public safety without harming shooting and the countryside.
The more people that contact their MP, the brighter and stronger shooting’s future will be.

Every voice counts.

To read more about the government’s intentions and what the Countryside Alliance is proposing, read our FAQ sheet here. You can also read our Briefing Note here.

n.b. This e-lobby is just for residents of England, Wales, and Scotland. Northern Ireland is subject to a different firearms licensing framework, to which this e-lobby and government consultation do not apply.


It is not necessary or beneficial to bring in any extra rules for SGC, but in reality it is not a great deal different now for SGC as opposed to FAC.
You already have to pass the same criteria and they are starting to question why you have different shotgun calibres at the interview and renewal stage, and have the power to not grant an SGC if they dont think you demonstrate good cause.
You can feel the rules tightening every five years when you renew!
I will sign the form though as we certainly have enough rules and hoops to jump through to safeguard the public.
 
It is not necessary or beneficial to bring in any extra rules for SGC, but in reality it is not a great deal different now for SGC as opposed to FAC.
You already have to pass the same criteria and they are starting to question why you have different shotgun calibres at the interview and renewal stage, and have the power to not grant an SGC if they dont think you demonstrate good cause.
You can feel the rules tightening every five years when you renew!
I will sign the form though as we certainly have enough rules and hoops to jump through to safeguard the public.

That's not actually the law though. It's just that feos get away with stuff because they don't get enough push back. There's no good cause in shotgun licensing laws in reality. They just know that they won't get challenged in the vast majority of cases. There aren't any new rules (laws) about demonstrating need for sgc.
 
There's no good cause in shotgun licensing laws in reality.
Well actually yes there is, it's just worded differently and the burden of proof shifts.

For S1 it's for the applicant to show good reason.

For S2 if the chief officer has a reasonable belief the applicant doesn't have good reason they can refuse.
An example of this would be if throughout the application process the applicant fails to demonstrate any prior or future desire or attempt to use a S2 shotgun for any legal activities, eg just wanting one is likely get you refused.

The text explaining this is in the legislation.

There's a commonly held misconception that the difference between FAC & SGC is a may-issue vs shall-issue right, but this only applies IF you pass the checks and measures including the above.

It's a fairly low bar to pass the "sensible reason" test to obtain a SGC but the mechanism is there to refuse if on balance of probabilities there's enough suspicion of lack of good reason.

Don't forget the police are effectively in the risk management game when it comes to grants and without a crystal ball to look into they will make a best guess based on the facts presented to them, and if in doubt will refuse and sort it out later.
 
Sent the prepared letter and sending another separately . My MP is very much for the farming community and as farmers will be affected by this also I hope she will be on side with us.
 
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