Dan Wesson 715 Pellet Clipping Issue

[Plinker]

Have any of you had issues with pellets clipping in a C02 revolver before? I hadn’t until today, but when I was firing, the pellets were catching on a spring loaded section in the barrel that helps to bridge the gap between the shell and the barrel. The majority of the pellet was going down the barrel, but the piece that was clipped off then falls out the pistol or gets stuck in the barrel.

I examined the shells and the back of them were looking as if they were scraping against something as the brass finish had gone. I tried a couple of different pellets but it was clipping all of them. I then noticed that when you cock the pistol the cylinder wasn’t quite turning around enough to line up the shell with the barrel, if you physically helped the cylinder round that extra few degrees, it did fall into place and you could then fire an actual full pellet. But if you simply pulled back the hammer it would consistently fail to line up.

I tried to see what the mechanism did without shells inside, and the cylinder seemed to index perfectly without the shells. I’m wondering if the shop has got these shells mixed up with another gun, but looking online the Dan Wesson Pellet shells do look like the ones I have. Bit confused, I have emailed the shop and asked them for their repair or replacement process, but wondered if any of you have had similar issues?

 

[bill57]

I have a Dan Wesson revolver somewhere that I was gifted - I never use it because it's junk. The most important thing in a revolver is alignment of cylinder to bore, if it can't do that properly it's useless.

 

[Ade C]

The shells shouldn't be scraping at the rear. Sounds like they're too long to me

 

[oldsteamer]

try a tad of silicon/rubber grease on the rubber seal that seals the shell when in firing posision i do this on all my revolvers helps wiht the drum rotation friction between shell and breach

 

[BlownAway]

Exactly the same thing happened to me. The first time I used it, wildly inaccurate and bits of slug fell out when I opened to reload and eventually the entire mechanism jammed up so bad I couldn't either open the cylinder or cock the hammer. The breech end of the spring loaded barrel got badly chewed up too.

I sent mine back and have the replacement ready for testing so I shall see what happens. Going to use the silicon spray this time though.

 

[flatrajectory]

Often the forcing cone ( the spring loaded nose piece in the barrel ) can be very rough and require removing and cleaning up/polishing with wet and dry .

 

[Gregothe1st]

I've got 3 revolvers that I've had to fix poor indexing on, namely an M29 and a couple of Nagants. All had the same problem the OP stated, not quite managing to lock in before the hammer falls.

The forcing cones were fine in all of them , the problem was too much lateral play with the hand (or the pawl) allowing the hand to slip off the star before indexing was complete.

The fix was a shim placed in the side plate adjacent to the hand, this tightens up the play and keeps the hand in contact with the star and nearer the center of the star so levering the cylinder that few degrees more thats needed to fully index.

The shims I made were from brass sheet and from the side of a 2L plastic milk carton.

A bit of experimenting needed though, too thick a shim and the hand won't pop out , you just need a shim a few thou thick just tighten up a bit of the play.

As mentioned earlier, keep the rubber seal well lubed as this also helps to stop wear to those all important parts by reducing the effort needed to index.

 

[CaptDAR]

I have the DW 715 Limited Edition .22 #002/600.
I had the very same problem as yours and you can see from my pictures.
There are a few things you can do to correct the issue which I did and my revolver then shot accurately and without and problems.

Firstly the barrel cone was very poorly finished off with very sharp edges. I had to clean it up.

Make sure the barrel lower location pin is not protruding inwards against the crane.

Make sure the crane tongue spring is keeping the crane tight in its closed position.

It’s possible that the shell’s rubber seals are protruding and dragging against the rubber co2 outlet seal. I had to shave a good few on my shells.

Rub some silicon grease, not oil, on the seal.


Hope this helps.

Dan Wesson 715 Cylinder Advance Problem

 

[Gregothe1st]

I have the DW 715 Limited Edition .22 #002/600.
I had the very same problem as yours and you can see from my pictures.
There are a few things you can do to correct the issue which I did and my revolver then shot accurately and without and problems.

Firstly the barrel cone was very poorly finished off with very sharp edges. I had to clean it up.

Make sure the barrel lower location pin is not protruding inwards against the crane.

Make sure the crane tongue spring is keeping the crane tight in its closed position.

It’s possible that the shell’s rubber seals are protruding and dragging against the rubber co2 outlet seal. I had to shave a good few on my shells.

Rub some silicon grease, not oil, on the seal.


Hope this helps.

Dan Wesson 715 Cylinder Advance Problem

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A helpful post and video, and a lovely .22 special, well sought after I'd have thought.

It's just a shame quality varies so much between revolvers, I have 2 M29s, 6 and 8", both bought new from the same rfd and both with little use, the 6" needed shimming as it wouldn't index whereas the 8" indexes at around 3/4s travel of the hammer being pulled back.