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kintoo
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kintoo
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I have a 400 fusion that has been tuned at wickford, very nice to shoot, low recoil and very accurate, have seen some bad comments about the Cometa,s but personally I am very pleased with mine.
NEIL MCMLX
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22 for podgy fingers.177 is for people who can't lift tins of .22
I'm off before I get my head kicked in
I Firmly believe at their price points and gun types accros the entire range new HWs from the 25 and upwards they do offer the best value for money in spring air rifles today they lose nothing tangible to guns costing a lot more, not the cheapest acepted but exeptional value for money .
32:1
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Funny as thats how I see Cometa after owning a few, excellent value for money and luckily we all like different as it would be a grey old world if we all liked the same
i have neither positive or negative experience with cometa they look ok and yet they seem simply too close to HW Prices to take the plunge, At least with hatsans you have next to nothing to spend.Funny as thats how I see Cometa after owning a few, excellent value for money and luckily we all like different as it would be a grey old world if we all liked the same
Tell you what when the cometa 200 is £90 The 220 £117 the 300 £130 and the 400 £175 i will try them, i can buy equivelent hatsans for that money.
NEIL MCMLX
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That's what I'm just finding out about cometa, bit Marmite but those that like them love them. I've just dipped my toe in with a 400usclt ( now if it would just warm up a tad..)Funny as thats how I see Cometa after owning a few, excellent value for money and luckily we all like different as it would be a grey old world if we all liked the same
32:1
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I’ve had a few HWs and they never actually offered any more than my Hatsan or Cometas and I was no more accurate with them and I still had kits fitted and triggers polished pistons lightened and cheekrisers fitted, yes horses for courses as we know and I no longer own any HWs as I’ve found these Cometa’s give me everything I want for what I’m doing but if HW could match those prices you state I might think about one
It is awesome we can chose and that the options are there for this that and the other make of gun, we need more springer options not less.I’ve had a few HWs and they never actually offered any more than my Hatsan or Cometas and I was no more accurate with them and I still had kits fitted and triggers polished pistons lightened and cheekrisers fitted, yes horses for courses as we know and I no longer own any HWs as I’ve found these Cometa’s give me everything I want for what I’m doing but if HW could match those prices you state I might think about one
xlucine
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I'd definitely try weihrauch if I could get a HW30 for £90
The HW30 like the HW97 is well priced as it is and represent great value for money in their respective clases.
The closest you will get to a HW30 at £90 is a SMK X15 which is a cloneish of the Junior HW25 its big brother the x17 is a similar power but bigger and fater i supose a x16 if there was one would be a true HW30 clone.
X15 has an ok barrel and they are accurate the big let down is the trigger that is safe but quite heavy, Welsh willy is the bloke to talk to for advice he is up on SMK triggers. Ball detent the lot they are pretty close and about £90 great for kids i brought my three kids up on two x15s both are still working and with a project diy custon target stock and that trigger sorted out would be a good bell target project.
Speaks for itself...cometaTook it outside this morning and it did put a big smile on me
Agreed. And, although this isn't strictly the point, you have a good chunk left in your budget should you want to fettle or have one of the springer gurus give it the full Sunday Roast with all the trimmings.
I had an excellent TX200HC, which was V-Mach tuned when I bought it. Compared with a standard TX200, it was noticeably better. I have also come across out-of-the-box twangy and, in some cases, inaccurate TXs. Whilst it isn't the norm for Air Arms, it does happen.
I now have a Paul Short Stage 4 Titanium tuned HW97k, which, quite frankly, significantly betters my old TX, in terms of the shot cycle and hold sensitivity etc. But then, that's purely my personal opinion, and the TX was certainly no slouch. In terms of accuracy, they are on par with each other. Accurate, is, after all, accurate. But, for about the same money as say a TX200, give or take, so long as you have a good barrel to start with, you can have a HW97 fettled by one of the springer wizards. Applying the same treatment to the TX (guru wizard tuning) will cost a lot more and only bring it up to par with the tuned HW97. Again, my opinion, but also my experience.
I agree, to some extent. In my opinion, the HW30 is pushing it a little at today's sub £300 price point. That said, it is a genuinely excellent little rifle, at least mine is. For a 'junior's' first rifle, although an excellent and solid buy, it can be an expensive way to learn that you don't like shooting, or spring guns. I think its resurgent popularity has seen the RRP rise disproportionately. I purchased my open sights 'SF' version new for £250, and not long prior, it was priced at circa £200, so quite a jump. At £300 (more in some places) you get the 'K' version, with a disposable scope, which gets you into the realms of a full-sized 'full powered' rifle, which is where the average punter begins sucking their teeth.
I like mine so much that I had a Falcon Prairie PCP stock adapted to fit, which has transformed the rifle. I needed the larger stock, and whilst much cheaper than say, a CS500, it wasn't 'cheap'.
Is it better than anything that Cometa have to offer in that demographic? I don't know. But the Cometa's price point, what you get for your money, and the numerous positive reviews are opening my eyes. I might just try one at some point. But which one?
I think because after the initial outlay there's little to nowt left in the budget...
Seriously, I hated my old TX200 stock... and the same was true of my old HW77 stock, especially the angle of the grip, and if I'm honest, the blandness, especially the horrible 'fish scale' strippling on the newer AA rifles (I'm an oddball)!.
So for me, it's usually a different stock, preloved if I can find one, to mitigate the cost...
So my TX200HC was dressed in a Warren Edwards adjustable stock, which for me transformed the rifle and my consistency/accuracy. Without a change in stock, I would have moved the rifle on a lot sooner.
My current HW97k is also dressed in a Warren Edwards adjustable stock, which again just works for me, and keepos me consistently accurate.
Not even my little HW30 was safe! This stock is a Falco Prairie PCP stock, which was adapted to fit. The higher cheek comb and straighter grip have, again, transformed the rifle for me.
Plastic stacked hw30k is probably cheapest version but tend "Or did do" to come in kits with an okish hw scope etc fine for a starter or kids present etc but it bumps the price up a bit is the only bother, and plenty will just throw the kit scope in a draw anyway.I agree, to some extent. In my opinion, the HW30 is pushing it a little at today's sub £300 price point. That said, it is a genuinely excellent little rifle, at least mine is. For a 'junior's' first rifle, although an excellent and solid buy, it can be an expensive way to learn that you don't like shooting, or spring guns. I think its resurgent popularity has seen the RRP rise disproportionately. I purchased my open sights 'SF' version new for £250, and not long prior, it was priced at circa £200, so quite a jump. At £300 (more in some places) you get the 'K' version, with a disposable scope, which gets you into the realms of a full-sized 'full powered' rifle, which is where the average punter begins sucking their teeth.
I like mine so much that I had a Falcon Prairie PCP stock adapted to fit, which has transformed the rifle. I needed the larger stock, and whilst much cheaper than say, a CS500, it wasn't 'cheap'.
Is it better than anything that Cometa have to offer in that demographic? I don't know. But the Cometa's price point, what you get for your money, and the numerous positive reviews are opening my eyes. I might just try one at some point. But which one?
The cometa 200 is its rival and its not hiting goals on very much at all, its fat compared to the HW30 it might be just as accurate as the hw30 i realy dont know but its simply not an eqal at all a worthy gun perhaps and its cheaper but reality its a meteor sort of vibe not a HW30, the 220 is bigger sort of an old webley hawk vibe to it. the 300 i guess is a HW99 comperitor and is IMO the best value cometa there is . The 400 is as i have said IMO getting too close to HWs like the HW35 HW95 and even Discounted HW97s to spend that much on without me digging that bit more cash out for a hw97.
I got two cheapo Hatsan .25s they do all i need in a .25 the 400 is just too much money sorry but if i am spending that sort of money on a .25 it will be a HW97 not a cometa 400 Even if the HW97 is that bit more brass its not snobery or HW fanboyitis just common scense i got two hw97s and i know what i like. YOMV.
Snobbery aside, and in both ur cases, it's not about brand snobbery, but about choice, across various budgets. You know what you like, I know what I like, as do others, but for some, budget is an absolute constraint, and the cheaper offerings offer a more affordable gateway into the hobby. And in many cases, a cheaper option can encourage people to have a go at fettling themselves, rather than potentially 'bodging' something more 'premium'.
I love a premium product, but I also have a soft spot for the 'underdog'. Choice is a wonderful thing. What a time to be alive!
In reality we need to be focusing on the HAtsan 900x or airtakts in the £100 price point and pushing those hard on here get any lurkers here about to join here and get started with this sort of cheapo guns. Fact is we got to get these kids out of their centraly heated bedrooms into the freezing fog shooting magpie along hedge rows. Because If we YES US because we are the last or will be if we dont get these gamers out in the cold, WE WILL be the last ones doing this . Just sayin. " This is a mesage from the deeply concerned old shooters network who owns no crystal ball but can none the same see this coming."Snobbery aside, and in both ur cases, it's not about brand snobbery, but about choice, across various budgets. You know what you like, I know what I like, as do others, but for some, budget is an absolute constraint, and the cheaper offerings offer a more affordable gateway into the hobby. And in many cases, a cheaper option can encourage people to have a go at fettling themselves, rather than potentially 'bodging' something more 'premium'.
I love a premium product, but I also have a soft spot for the 'underdog'. Choice is a wonderful thing. What a time to be alive!