Aussie gyn buy-back.

[Rich79]

The Australian government is to offer gun owners money to buy their guns from them!

So what income that's not taxpayer money has the Australian government suddenly gotten hold of?
Because if it is tax payer money then aussie gun owners are just buying their own guns from themselves and giving them to someone else!

 

[2506sendero]

Yet another knee jerk reaction that does not even come close to touching on the real issue - more gun legislation will do nothing to stem the world wide spike in antisemitism unfortunately.

 

[Sharpsman]

Only people this will affect is law abiding gun owners , criminals or people with bad intentions will still get hold of a gun regardless of this cash for guns . It's just smoke and mirrors for the general public minions .

 

[Gym.Hodgson]

Only people this will affect is law abiding gun owners , criminals or people with bad intentions will still get hold of a gun regardless of this cash for guns . It's just smoke and mirrors for the general public minions .

Exactly, the minority getting priority, yet again - with the law abiding citizens paying the price & bearing the consequences.

 

[Stu.22]

Couldn’t imagine our government being that accommodating

There is a lot of anger amongst Australians following conversion with a friend who lives over there
given the son was known to the authorities and his father was allowed to own guns

 

[Wizzygoth]

Hollow headed chimps (politicians)...appeasing shallow and dumb woke (population)...to win votes/stay in power
Not tackling anything, not fixing anything and not addressing the root cause.
It is as simple as that..................................

 

[Jay_kay]

Couldn’t imagine our government being that accommodating

There is a lot of anger amongst Australians following conversion with a friend who lives over there
given the son was known to the authorities and his father was allowed to own guns

Its almost like they are trying to sweep that bit under the carpet. Son was investigated for links to islamic state, but dad was allowed to own guns. That was the police / governments major **** up, but instead lets use it as a way to demonise legal gun ownership, and bring in stricter laws.
One of the even more worrying reforms is removing the ability to appeal the police decision to remove your guns.

 

[CanuckATO]

Only people this will affect is law abiding gun owners , criminals or people with bad intentions will still get hold of a gun regardless of this cash for guns . It's just smoke and mirrors for the general public minions .

I'm not supporting this knee jerk buy-back, but the murdering father was a law abiding gun owner...until he wasn't. Criminals MAY get hold of a gun still, but there will be fewer to get a hold of.

 

[martin st ledger]

Presumably it will be similar to the car scrappage scheme, it seems fair enough, better than an outright ban, the world is changing and their are a lot of angry hate filled men about and some nefarious internet sites and their owners are deliberately geeing them along, any decent administration has to act or else they will be accused all over the internet for not doing enough, its a fine line that is walked these days,
the Oz government has just brought in the social media ban for kids of an impressionable age, we should follow suit,

 

[Rich79]

Presumably it will be similar to the car scrappage scheme, it seems fair enough, better than an outright ban, the world is changing and their are a lot of angry hate filled men about and some nefarious internet sites and their owners are deliberately geeing them along, any decent administration has to act or else they will be accused all over the internet for not doing enough, its a fine line that is walked these days,
the Oz government has just brought in the social media ban for kids of an impressionable age, we should follow suit,

So why not do something about the source of that rather than legal guns?
To me it's a simple sum
Nutter + gun = bad outcome.

If you get rid of the guns you've still got the nutter, free to pick up any other implement and do their worst, still being fed hate by the source.

 

[Wobbler45]

Couldn’t imagine our government being that accommodating

There is a lot of anger amongst Australians following conversion with a friend who lives over there
given the son was known to the authorities and his father was allowed to own guns

It’s exactly what our government did with the pistol ban after dunblain. Anyone who had firearm pistols handed them in and they were valued and got the money. The values were reasonable considering the circumstances but nothing was given for ammo or other kit

 

[Bighit]

Couldn’t imagine our government being that accommodating

Our Government has paid for people to hand in Guns numerous times . The last one cost the tax payer 4 times what the projected it would cost .

The OWA 2019 https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/604609ad8fa8f577bd7cb731/2020_11_05_Values_List.pdf you can see what the were paying out .



What they paid out .



FIREARMS

Weapon Type	Total number surrendered	Total compensation paid
Lever release rifles	1,000	£2,783,859.46
MARS rifles	133	£262,470.25
Bump stock	1	£0

FIREARMS ANCILLARY EQUIPMENT

	Total number surrendered	Total compensation paid
Ancillary equipment	32,348	£781,766.40

The same when they made private possession of offensive weapons illegal also . If you had some of these before they were banned from buying them and selling, You could still possess them in your home . They made them illegal to own at all.

OFFENSIVE WEAPONS

Weapon type	Total number surrendered	Total compensation paid
Flick knife	719	£16,852.50
Gravity knife	53	£2,916.85
Zombie knife	224	£2,299.82
Cyclone knife	9	£173.74
Curved sword	255	£13,536.33
Baton	2,991	£30,377.09
Stealth knife	17	£51
Disguised knife	41	£205
Knuckle Duster	959	£2,290.06
Swordstick	27	£3,227.91
Handclaw	3	£27
Belt buckle knife	8	£40
Push dagger	865	£1,781
Hollow kubotan	23	£98
Footclaw	1	£7
Shuriken	94	£405
Balisong	68	£1,538
Telescopic truncheon	8,504	£170,110
Blowpipe	61	£854
Kusari gama	4	£105
Kusari	38	£380
Kyoketsu shoge	1	£20

Source: the information has been drawn from the Offensive Weapons Act surrender and compensation scheme casework tool using the Claimed Weapons by Coding (numbers of weapons) and Weapons by Coding (compensation values) reports.






When they removed the Handguns .


The final cost of the UK handgun ban was officially estimated by the National Audit Office to be approximately
£95 million. This figure covers compensation for surrendered firearms and ammunition, as well as associated administrative costs.

The total cost was composed of:

• £87 million in compensation payments to individuals and registered dealers for 165,353 licensed handguns and 700 tonnes of ammunition.
• £8 million in administrative costs, which included special grants to police forces for managing the surrender process.

Initial estimates had varied, with some Home Office officials suggesting figures up to £150 million, but the final reported amount was lower. The compensation scheme, implemented in two phases for different calibre handguns following the Firearms (Amendment) Acts of 1997, aimed to provide market value for the prohibited weapons and ancillary equipment.

 

[CanuckATO]

So why not do something about the source of that rather than legal guns?
To me it's a simple sum
Nutter + gun = bad outcome.

If you get rid of the guns you've still got the nutter, free to pick up any other implement and do their worst, still being fed hate by the source.

If only it were that easy, though. The nutter wasn't a nutter until he was. Up to that moment, he passed all the checks and was a legal, non nutter gun owner. Then he wasn't. We're not quite into into minority report teritory yet.

 

[Steve636]

The Australian government is to offer gun owners money to buy their guns from them!

So what income that's not taxpayer money has the Australian government suddenly gotten hold of?
Because if it is tax payer money then aussie gun owners are just buying their own guns from themselves and giving them to someone else!

The only people who'd take up the offer are law abiding. As if the bag guys are gonna turn their guns in FFS.
The world's run by idiots.

 

[Steve636]

Our Government has paid for people to hand in Guns numerous times . The last one cost the tax payer 4 times what the projected it would cost .

The OWA 2019 https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/604609ad8fa8f577bd7cb731/2020_11_05_Values_List.pdf you can see what the were paying out .



What they paid out .



FIREARMS

Weapon Type	Total number surrendered	Total compensation paid
Lever release rifles	1,000	£2,783,859.46
MARS rifles	133	£262,470.25
Bump stock	1	£0

FIREARMS ANCILLARY EQUIPMENT

	Total number surrendered	Total compensation paid
Ancillary equipment	32,348	£781,766.40

The same when they made private possession of offensive weapons illegal also . If you had some of these before they were banned from buying them and selling, You could still possess them in your home . They made them illegal to own at all.

OFFENSIVE WEAPONS

Weapon type	Total number surrendered	Total compensation paid
Flick knife	719	£16,852.50
Gravity knife	53	£2,916.85
Zombie knife	224	£2,299.82
Cyclone knife	9	£173.74
Curved sword	255	£13,536.33
Baton	2,991	£30,377.09
Stealth knife	17	£51
Disguised knife	41	£205
Knuckle Duster	959	£2,290.06
Swordstick	27	£3,227.91
Handclaw	3	£27
Belt buckle knife	8	£40
Push dagger	865	£1,781
Hollow kubotan	23	£98
Footclaw	1	£7
Shuriken	94	£405
Balisong	68	£1,538
Telescopic truncheon	8,504	£170,110
Blowpipe	61	£854
Kusari gama	4	£105
Kusari	38	£380
Kyoketsu shoge	1	£20

Source: the information has been drawn from the Offensive Weapons Act surrender and compensation scheme casework tool using the Claimed Weapons by Coding (numbers of weapons) and Weapons by Coding (compensation values) reports.






When they removed the Handguns .


The final cost of the UK handgun ban was officially estimated by the National Audit Office to be approximately
£95 million. This figure covers compensation for surrendered firearms and ammunition, as well as associated administrative costs.

The total cost was composed of:

• £87 million in compensation payments to individuals and registered dealers for 165,353 licensed handguns and 700 tonnes of ammunition.
• £8 million in administrative costs, which included special grants to police forces for managing the surrender process.

Initial estimates had varied, with some Home Office officials suggesting figures up to £150 million, but the final reported amount was lower. The compensation scheme, implemented in two phases for different calibre handguns following the Firearms (Amendment) Acts of 1997, aimed to provide market value for the prohibited weapons and ancillary equipment.

And it made no difference.

 

[Bighit]

And it made no difference.

It did to the legitimate owners . Most people know bans don’t work in affecting those they are trying to target.

 

[Si Titor]

And it made no difference.

Its a lot worse now.

 

[Stu.22]

Our Government has paid for people to hand in Guns numerous times . The last one cost the tax payer 4 times what the projected it would cost .

The OWA 2019 https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/604609ad8fa8f577bd7cb731/2020_11_05_Values_List.pdf you can see what the were paying out .



What they paid out .



FIREARMS

Weapon Type	Total number surrendered	Total compensation paid
Lever release rifles	1,000	£2,783,859.46
MARS rifles	133	£262,470.25
Bump stock	1	£0

FIREARMS ANCILLARY EQUIPMENT

	Total number surrendered	Total compensation paid
Ancillary equipment	32,348	£781,766.40

The same when they made private possession of offensive weapons illegal also . If you had some of these before they were banned from buying them and selling, You could still possess them in your home . They made them illegal to own at all.

OFFENSIVE WEAPONS

Weapon type	Total number surrendered	Total compensation paid
Flick knife	719	£16,852.50
Gravity knife	53	£2,916.85
Zombie knife	224	£2,299.82
Cyclone knife	9	£173.74
Curved sword	255	£13,536.33
Baton	2,991	£30,377.09
Stealth knife	17	£51
Disguised knife	41	£205
Knuckle Duster	959	£2,290.06
Swordstick	27	£3,227.91
Handclaw	3	£27
Belt buckle knife	8	£40
Push dagger	865	£1,781
Hollow kubotan	23	£98
Footclaw	1	£7
Shuriken	94	£405
Balisong	68	£1,538
Telescopic truncheon	8,504	£170,110
Blowpipe	61	£854
Kusari gama	4	£105
Kusari	38	£380
Kyoketsu shoge	1	£20

Source: the information has been drawn from the Offensive Weapons Act surrender and compensation scheme casework tool using the Claimed Weapons by Coding (numbers of weapons) and Weapons by Coding (compensation values) reports.






When they removed the Handguns .


The final cost of the UK handgun ban was officially estimated by the National Audit Office to be approximately
£95 million. This figure covers compensation for surrendered firearms and ammunition, as well as associated administrative costs.

The total cost was composed of:

• £87 million in compensation payments to individuals and registered dealers for 165,353 licensed handguns and 700 tonnes of ammunition.
• £8 million in administrative costs, which included special grants to police forces for managing the surrender process.

Initial estimates had varied, with some Home Office officials suggesting figures up to £150 million, but the final reported amount was lower. The compensation scheme, implemented in two phases for different calibre handguns following the Firearms (Amendment) Acts of 1997, aimed to provide market value for the prohibited weapons and ancillary equipment.

Fully aware of previous government payments lived through them times
rightly so peoples should receive a fair payment

Was referring to the current puppet show

 

[JohnnySweden]

Fascinating! Here buybacks by the Government is illegal, as is revoking any kind of permit without a legal cause.

 

[2506sendero]

Fascinating! Here buybacks by the Government is illegal, as is revoking any kind of permit without a legal cause.

That is extremely refreshing to hear, and it sounds remarkably like a proper democracy.