Anti Tamper For My S400

[BradleyW]

Hello,

I'd like to anti Tamper the TP covering screw and at least one of the screws holding the pellet probe housing to the main cylinder body. Wouldn't mind the stock screw being anti Tamper either. As long as a key is supplied and I can still apply good torque to the screws in question.

Thank you.

 

[the logun-ator]

....then do it then.
m3 shear bolt for the tranny, alloy bung for the cylinder bolt and a security torx for the stock(or the rest)
waste of time in my opinion though.

 

[That hurts]

Hello,

I'd like to anti Tamper the TP covering screw and at least one of the screws holding the pellet probe housing to the main cylinder body. Wouldn't mind the stock screw being anti Tamper either. As long as a key is supplied and I can still apply good torque to the screws in question.

Thank you.

The question has to be asked ... why ?

 

[SamG340]

All it means if when ( not if ) there's a problem with the insides it's going to be a pita to fix.

I can't think of a reason to do this? Perhaps you've got kids that take your guns apart when you're not looking ? but they shouldn't have unsupervised access to the rifle anyway?

Meddling friends at the gun club?

Doesn't make much sense to me !

 

[BradleyW]

....then do it then.
m3 shear bolt for the tranny, alloy bung for the cylinder bolt and a security torx for the stock(or the rest)
waste of time in my opinion though.

Well, it's OK saying "just do it then".., don't you think I would have if I knew what I needed? Hence the creation of the thread, to gain information on what would be required and the feasibility.

The question has to be asked ... why ?

This is a question asked all too often on forums. It isn't a question of why, it is a matter of passing on knowledge to others on an open forum.

All it means if when ( not if ) there's a problem with the insides it's going to be a pita to fix.

I can't think of a reason to do this? Perhaps you've got kids that take your guns apart when you're not looking ? but they shouldn't have unsupervised access to the rifle anyway?

Meddling friends at the gun club?

Doesn't make much sense to me !

I understand your first point. That's why I'd be looking for something that would not be hard to remove if a special key was provided. A bit like a secure wheel nut. As for assuming I may have children accessing a rifle and dismantling it, well I wouldn't be fit to keep a rifle if that was the case would I? If it was the case, the rifle would just be locked away, which it is anyway.

 

[Redboat01]

https://hexlox.com/ as a drop in for hex bolts. I have no personal afiliation to them, but have done so for the bolts on my Edgun R5M.

My intention in doing this is to make it no longer possible to adjust the power, set at 10.5 ft/lb with commonly available tools (without physcially altering the rifle).

 

[BradleyW]

https://hexlox.com/ as a drop in for hex bolts. I have no personal afiliation to them, but have done so for the bolts on my Edgun R5M.

My intention in doing this is to make it no longer possible to adjust the power, set at 10.5 ft/lb with commonly available tools (without physcially altering the rifle).

Thank you very much for the link and your help.

 

[the logun-ator]

Well, it's OK saying "just do it then".., don't you think I would have if I knew what I needed? Hence the creation of the thread, to gain information on what would be required and the feasibility.

This is a question asked all too often on forums. It isn't a question of why, it is a matter of passing on knowledge to others on an open forum.

I understand your first point. That's why I'd be looking for something that would not be hard to remove if a special key was provided. A bit like a secure wheel nut. As for assuming I may have children accessing a rifle and dismantling it, well I wouldn't be fit to keep a rifle if that was the case would I? If it was the case, the rifle would just be locked away, which it is anyway.

...well I told you to do it AND supplied information on how to do it and what was needed...which was the point of my post
I couldn't really do much more could I?

 

[That hurts]

The question has to be asked ... why ?

This is a question asked all too often on forums. It isn't a question of why, it is a matter of passing on knowledge to others on an open forum.

It is a question of why, because people are genuinely interested in knowing why you basically want to reinstate the anti tamper ... a question which you have been flippant about in your replies !

 

[Redboat01]

It is a question of why, because people are genuinely interested in knowing why you basically want to reinstate the anti tamper ... a question which you have been flippant about in your replies !

@That hurts a number of Edgun owners have done the same thing. Some rifles can have the stocks taken off and things adjusted with commonly available tools. Installing your own 'anti-tamper' means that this is no longer possible unless the stock is drilled off. Its a way of assuring the rifle has been set well under 12 ft/lb and then cannot be easily adjusted in a test. 10.5 is my preference.

 

[That hurts]

@That hurts a number of Edgun owners have done the same thing. Some rifles can have the stocks taken off and things adjusted with commonly available tools. Installing your own 'anti-tamper' means that this is no longer possible unless the stock is drilled off. Its a way of assuring the rifle has been set well under 12 ft/lb and then cannot be easily adjusted in a test. 10.5 is my preference.

Yep am aware, but my point is that the OP seems to be purposely evasive ?

 

[SamG340]

I understand your first point. That's why I'd be looking for something that would not be hard to remove if a special key was provided. A bit like a secure wheel nut. As for assuming I may have children accessing a rifle and dismantling it, well I wouldn't be fit to keep a rifle if that was the case would I? If it was the case, the rifle would just be locked away, which it is anyway.

Sorry mate didn't mean any offence, it's your rifle & up to you obviously.

But if like you say it's locked away, I can't see much point in fitting anti tampers?

 

[BradleyW]

...well I told you to do it AND supplied information on how to do it and what was needed...which was the point of my post
I couldn't really do much more could I?

No worries. It was the opening to your post that I found to be direct. The problem with forums is that we can only communicate by writing. We can't guage how something was said or intended.

It is a question of why, because people are genuinely interested in knowing why you basically want to reinstate the anti tamper ... a question which you have been flippant about in your replies !

I understand some are interested, and that is OK, but generally I see more questions asked to those asking questions than what I see helpful responses. When you take a vehicle to a mechanic, the mechanic doesn't ask why you want your vehicle repairing.

@That hurts a number of Edgun owners have done the same thing. Some rifles can have the stocks taken off and things adjusted with commonly available tools. Installing your own 'anti-tamper' means that this is no longer possible unless the stock is drilled off. Its a way of assuring the rifle has been set well under 12 ft/lb and then cannot be easily adjusted in a test. 10.5 is my preference.

This is a solid reason for having AT fitted which can be easily removed by the person who fitted it, but prevents a rifle from being modified during a test. However you could state it was within the limit when in your possession and modification may be argued as tampering with evidence. How well any of this would stand up is another thing, but enough about that, I'm going off topic.

Yep am aware, but my point is that the OP seems to be purposely evasive ?

As above.

Sorry mate didn't mean any offence, it's your rifle & up to you obviously.

But if like you say it's locked away, I can't see much point in fitting anti tampers?

No worries at all and I thank you for reading my post.

 

[That hurts]

 

[SamG340]

I understand some are interested, and that is OK, but generally I see more questions asked to those asking questions than what I see helpful responses. When you take a vehicle to a mechanic, the mechanic doesn't ask why you want your vehicle repairing.

Yea we're a bunch of sarcy tw@ts .

If you went to your local garage and asked him to bolt your bonnet down you'd get a funny look

 

[Aston_Shooter]

When you take a vehicle to a mechanic, the mechanic doesn't ask why you want your vehicle repairing.

You're not asking for your rifle to be repaired.

If I asked my mechanic to weld the doors shut on my car, he would almost certainly ask why.

Just saying.

 

[Bighit]

No worries. It was the opening to your post that I found to be direct. The problem with forums is that we can only communicate by writing. We can't guage how something was said or intended.

I understand some are interested, and that is OK, but generally I see more questions asked to those asking questions than what I see helpful responses. When you take a vehicle to a mechanic, the mechanic doesn't ask why you want your vehicle repairing.

This is a solid reason for having AT fitted which can be easily removed by the person who fitted it, but prevents a rifle from being modified during a test. However you could state it was within the limit when in your possession and modification may be argued as tampering with evidence. How well any of this would stand up is another thing, but enough about that, I'm going off topic.

As above.

No worries at all and I thank you for reading my post.

No matter what you do to stop some one altering the rifle during a test , they will find a way to do it if they have to. Like the rifle in one case where the forensic testers apparently removed the valve return spring to get the rifle to go over the limit.

If you can have special tools to remove the anti Tamper , so can others who you are trying to stop from tampering with it

Engineers can get almost all obstacles in their way out of their way with out destroying the full item when they need to ,that's why they get business from people who dont have the correct tools.

 

[Lee71]

It is a question of why, because people are genuinely interested in knowing why you basically want to reinstate the anti tamper ... a question which you have been flippant about in your replies !

Ste.va ?

 

[SamG340]

Ste.va ?

He's everywhere