A bit of History about Yunker & Cybergun co2 bb 'AK47' air rifles

[Didier]

I wouldn’t buy one without the plug.

The screw of the TR-3 grip and the inner profile of the grip are different from the standard AK-74/AK-100 series grip - I had to use a few make-shift "shims" to adapt it to my Yunker-2, but once that DIY job is done, it's firmly in place and quite comfy, compared to the original grip.
Overall, I think the TR-3 pistol grip gives my Yunker-2 a more modern look and maybe that look is more in keeping with the muzzle device I am currently using.

By the way, I saw no mention of the screw on the ad you posted

Speaking of muzzle devices, I have read somewhere on a U.S. forum (if memory serves) that original AK-105 muzzle boosters for 5.45x39mm ammunition were never to be found anywhere in the U.S. The underlying theory was that AK-105 muzzle boosters for military 5.45x39mm ammo were restricted and, accordingly, not exported.

Were you able to find one?

 

[Didier]

Again off topic, but this could be of interest to some of you on here: the Chinese Type 81 (a.k.a. M81) bayonet.

The "real thing" is very often confused with its well-known replica, to the point that even some seasoned AK bayonet collectors are not aware of the two distinct productions.

Here are the two protagonists, inside my AK bayonet showcase

I suppose commenting on those will be superfluous: the pictures will no doubt speak for themselves.

I think the original Chinese owner's name may have been carved onto the sheath of the "real" M81 bayonet, but it would take a fluent Chinese reader to interpret it, I'm afraid.

For those of you who would like a bird's eye view of AK bayonets around the world, I would recommend CarlosC's definitive guide to AK bayonets. Of course, there are more detailed studies to be found on the Internet.

To me, the replica M81 bayonet illustrates the difficulty of ascertaining the "originality" of Chinese military stuff - lots of replicas floating around, all of them duly made in China
The two bayonets are different, but still rather close to one another in my opinion - the main differences are in the way they were mounted and in the way they were finished. Those who manufactured them wanted them to be distinguishable at first sight, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that both were made in the same place, which makes me think of how RealSword AEG replicas were produced.

 

[cookEA888]

I can remember these been advertised in gunmart etc. looking back on it I think I’ve missed a trick now not buying any of the variants. At the time I was more intrested in collecting old spec 47,s and 74,s

 

[Didier]

I can remember these been advertised in gunmart etc. looking back on it I think I’ve missed a trick now not buying any of the variants. At the time I was more intrested in collecting old spec 47,s and 74,s

I think every collector feels the same: torn between the need not to spend too much on useless items and the fear never to chance upon said items again in one's lifetime. There was a time when you could buy AK mags freely in France - now you can't even buy or sell a deactivated AK mag here

 

[nikvanorton]

Again off topic, but this could be of interest to some of you on here: the Chinese Type 81 (a.k.a. M81) bayonet.

The "real thing" is very often confused with its well-known replica, to the point that even some seasoned AK bayonet collectors are not aware of the two distinct productions.

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Here are the two protagonists, inside my AK bayonet showcase

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I suppose commenting on those will be superfluous: the pictures will no doubt speak for themselves.

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I think the original Chinese owner's name may have been carved onto the sheath of the "real" M81 bayonet, but it would take a fluent Chinese reader to interpret it, I'm afraid.

For those of you who would like a bird's eye view of AK bayonets around the world, I would recommend CarlosC's definitive guide to AK bayonets. Of course, there are more detailed studies to be found on the Internet.

To me, the replica M81 bayonet illustrates the difficulty of ascertaining the "originality" of Chinese military stuff - lots of replicas floating around, all of them duly made in China
The two bayonets are different, but still rather close to one another in my opinion - the main differences are in the way they were mounted and in the way they were finished. Those who manufactured them wanted them to be distinguishable at first sight, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that both were made in the same place, which makes me think of how RealSword AEG replicas were produced.

My ‘Far Eastern’ bayonets:

I’m very jealous of your genuine T81 bayonet - mine is the ‘gift shop’ version but since I can’t find a proper one I weathered it somewhat and pinned the crosspiece as per the real thing.

The other bayonets are Chinese (black and more unusual red) with a very rare belt clip on the red one, thanks to @Dan1219 .

Also pictured are 3 North Korean bayonets.

 

[cookEA888]

There’s a nice collection there

 

[Didier]

My ‘Far Eastern’ bayonets:

I’m very jealous of your genuine T81 bayonet - mine is the ‘gift shop’ version but since I can’t find a proper one I weathered it somewhat and pinned the crosspiece as per the real thing.

The other bayonets are Chinese (black and more unusual red) with a very rare belt clip on the red one, thanks to @Dan1219 .

Also pictured are 3 North Korean bayonets.


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You have a far more extensive and varied AK bayonet collection than me, so there's not much to be jealous about, really.

I wish I could find one of the export Chinese bayonets - there was one for sale here a year ago or two, but I didn't buy it

 

[nikvanorton]

You have a far more extensive and varied AK bayonet collection than me, so there's not much to be jealous about, really.

I wish I could find one of the export Chinese bayonets - there was one for sale here a year ago or two, but I didn't buy it

You’d think we would learn by repeatedly regretting those things that we didn’t buy.
There was a rash of NK bayonets for sale recently so I heeded my thoughts above and got 3
There was an original T81 bayonet for sale a while ago biut I missed it - and it was £400

 

[Didier]

You’d think we would learn by repeatedly regretting those things that we didn’t buy.
There was a rash of NK bayonets for sale recently so I heeded my thoughts above and got 3
There was an original T81 bayonet for sale a while ago biut I missed it - and it was £400

Mine was 150 €, which is already quite expensive.

 

[Didier]

Being on the lookout is I suppose the only way to avoid passing up opportunities.
This is what I got tonight:

A used Arsenal AKSU furniture set

Okay, I know that some people on here have much better stuff than that

It comes complete with the pistol grip screw, a part that can also be hard to find at times.

I also got the original Bulgarian sling that went with it.

The AKSU furniture set has a sad story to tell: the gun was an ex-full auto AK and, according to French legislation on firearms, it had to be either deactivated or destroyed - you can guess the option its owner chose...

A Bulgarian AKSU (photo from Rob Stott's The AK47 catalog)

We'll see how this Bulgarian furniture compares to the handguards of the MWM AKSU.

 

[Didier]

My very first Russian "military" optic: a 1P87 (1П87) holographic sight.

Not the most common of Russian sights in western Europe, although it does appear quite regularly on the U.S. market.
It comes with a dedicated Jupiter side-mounted rail.

This sight is to a certain extent the Russian response to the U.S. EOTech.

The 1P87 is widely used in the Russian Army nowadays, so it's a nice addition to any Yunker setup.

 

[Dan1219]

I was lucky enough to pick this gem up today at Malvern military fair for a very good price .

It’s is a HB-1-01 Izshmash survival knife which is dated and serial numbered

Excellent condition and well made to the quality of an AK74 bayonet

These were released and imported around the same time as the Yunker 2/3 and very few made it into the uk .

Features include survival kit , spear , two saw blades , wire cutter , sharpening stone , nylon cord and a very good quality compass .

The spear and saw blades fit Cv onto the scabbard by opening it up and the locking it in place , originally it would come boxed with instructions which I have since found online .

A nice addition to my Kalashnikov collecting and the knife even has the famous Izshmash stamps on the blade and scabbard

The you tube video is a good watch too .

 

[02cardyd]

So jealous this one’s on my hit list! What a find

 

[Dan1219]

So jealous this one’s on my hit list! What a find

It was on my list too 25 years ago when Oleg at FSU connections first got the small batch of them , then they sold out in weeks never to be seen again , till yesterday .

I believe they are advertised in the Izshmash catalogue in early 2001 era

 

[02cardyd]

I recently picked up a Izzy myself more of the bang variety, chambered in .22LR

 

[Didier]

My local gunsmith once put up for auction a similar rifle, but I was outbid, unfortunately.

The Izhmash logo does add to its charm, I would say

 

[02cardyd]

Yeah it’s actually very accurate aswell, really heavy barrel and really good quality, I might shoot a match with it for the fun

 

[Dan1219]

I recently picked up a Izzy myself more of the bang variety, chambered in .22LRView attachment 941611View attachment 941612View attachment 941614I’m sure these are in the izshmash catalogue ftom around 2002

 

[Dan1219]

Dug this 2002 izshmash catalog out with your .22 rifle and my new knife

 

[Didier]

A short video I made to illustrate the Russian Army 1P87 red dot sight:

There are actually two versions of the 1P87 sight: a GEN1, which has a more squared off housing, and the GEN2 (this one).

The GEN1 sight also has a different side mount: