A bit of History about Yunker & Cybergun co2 bb 'AK47' air rifles

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I’ve been doing a bit of research about the Yunker & Cybergun AK CO2 BB replicas that were produced around 2000-2010 which might be interesting to those that don’t know much about these fascinating guns. This information has been assembled over time from various sources (some Russian) and is supported by the fact that I have examples of most of the Yunker models and a very rare early Cybergun AK. Some pics below but I'll try to post some more soon.

The Yunker 1 used a genuine AK74 receiver and other real AK components. This caused a few problems in countries whos laws determine the identity of a firearm by the actual receiver (including America) so Yunker 1s exported to the States were illegal and classified as automatic weapons irrespective of what they actually fired. Many were destroyed for fear of prosecution. It is said that the reason Izhmash chose to install a complex hidden air pistol system firing through a tube that looked like the cleaning rod was to eliminate any suggestion of easy conversion back to a firearm. Interestingly, the original unused AK 5.45mm barrel on very early models is complete and undamaged.

The Yunker 2 & 3 models followed on with a much neater system - firing from the barrel, the co2 being housed in a self contained magazine along with the firing valve and ammunition tube. To avoid problems with the laws of some countries, they continued to use genuine AK parts but adapted Saiga Receivers which are semi-auto ‘civilian’ versions of Ishmash military weapons so the weapon was no longer viewed as ‘fully Auto’. These can be identified by having no mag dimples, no full auto setting and the arrangement of pivot pins/pin holes in the receiver is different.

The Yunker 2 was modelled on a short barrel AK105 and the 3 on an AK74. Wooden furniture versions were made, but black polycarbonate was most popular.

The Yunker 4 was basically a Yunker 2 or 3 but with the internals of the magazine (co2 housing, firing valve and ammo feed tube) pinned permanently into the receiver so that only the outer shell of the magazine came off. This was a further step to placate concerns about possible conversion but meant that a real mag loaded with inert rounds (for display) couldn’t be attatched any more.

There was apparently a Yunker 5 which was an AEG Airsoft gun but information on these is very limited.

For a short while, the early Cybergun AK47 (AKM) was built around a genuine Norinco Type 56 Export receiver with many genuine AK parts. They can be identified by having a stamped serial number (instead of etched), a much heavier genuine front trunnion, full length internal rails for the bolt carrier, stampings & positions on the fire selector for D & A (semi & auto), a heavier receiver and a butt stock with the correct butt plate incorporating a compartment for the cleaning kit.

This fell foul of exactly the same laws that the Yunker did, so the receiver was quickly changed to a good quality replica (probably derived from an airsoft design). This new receiver was supposedly built by LCT, a Chinese company who make real firearms as well as airsoft guns so still has an excellent pedigree. As a result, despite retailers claiming that Cybergun AK’s are built from real AK parts, this isn’t strictly true - only the first few thousand were. The later Cyberguns are terrific replicas but if you compare one to a deactivated AK, it’s pretty obvoius that they aren’t based on a real firearm.

Pics below are details of the early Cybergun variant, along with a comparison pic of the later trunnion.
Bit dark to photograph mine, so these are borrowed from an old (2014) atricle online - (with thanks).
More pics to follow when I get time.


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Above: A later Cybergun front trunnion - simply cast and very obviously too light for a real firearm.

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Above: An early Cybergun front trunnion - machined and much heavier - identical to genuine AK

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Above: Early Cybergun Semi and Full Auto markings - as export Norinco AK T56.

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Above: Early Cybergun serial number - stamped as genuine AK T56 - not etched.
 
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I’ve been doing a bit of research about the Yunker & Cybergun AK CO2 BB replicas that were produced around 2000-2010 which might be interesting to those that don’t know much about these fascinating guns. This information has been assembled over time from various sources (some Russian) and is supported by the fact that I have examples of most of the Yunker models and a very rare early Cybergun AK. Some pics below but I'll try to post some more soon.

The Yunker 1 used a genuine AK74 receiver and other real AK components. This caused a few problems in countries whos laws determine the identity of a firearm by the actual receiver (including America) so Yunker 1s exported to the States were illegal and classified as automatic weapons irrespective of what they actually fired. Many were destroyed for fear of prosecution. It is said that the reason Izhmash chose to install a complex hidden air pistol system firing through a tube that looked like the cleaning rod was to eliminate any suggestion of easy conversion back to a firearm. Interestingly, the original unused AK 5.45mm barrel on very early models is complete and undamaged.

The Yunker 2 & 3 models followed on with a much neater system - firing from the barrel, the co2 being housed in a self contained magazine along with the firing valve and ammunition tube. To avoid problems with the laws of some countries, they continued to use genuine AK parts but adapted Saiga Receivers which are semi-auto ‘civilian’ versions of Ishmash military weapons so the weapon was no longer viewed as ‘fully Auto’. These can be identified by having no mag dimples, no full auto setting and the arrangement of pivot pins/pin holes in the receiver is different.

The Yunker 2 was modelled on a short barrel AK105 and the 3 on an AK74. Wooden furniture versions were made, but black polycarbonate was most popular.

The Yunker 4 was basically a Yunker 2 or 3 but with the internals of the magazine (co2 housing, firing valve and ammo feed tube) pinned permanently into the receiver so that only the outer shell of the magazine came off. This was a further step to placate concerns about possible conversion but meant that a real mag loaded with inert rounds (for display) couldn’t be attatched any more.

There was apparently a Yunker 5 which was an AEG Airsoft gun but information on these is very limited.

For a short while, the early Cybergun AK47 (AKM) was built around a genuine Norinco Type 56 Export receiver with many genuine AK parts. They can be identified by having a stamped serial number (instead of etched), a much heavier genuine front trunnion, full length internal rails for the bolt carrier, stampings & positions on the fire selector for D & A (semi & auto), a heavier receiver and a butt stock with the correct butt plate incorporating a compartment for the cleaning kit.

This fell foul of exactly the same laws that the Yunker did, so the receiver was quickly changed to a good quality replica (probably derived from an airsoft design). This new receiver was supposedly built by LCT, a Chinese company who make real firearms as well as airsoft guns so still has an excellent pedigree. As a result, despite retailers claiming that Cybergun AK’s are built from real AK parts, this isn’t strictly true - only the first few thousand were. The later Cyberguns are terrific replicas but if you compare one to a deactivated AK, it’s pretty obvoius that they aren’t based on a real firearm.

Pics below are details of the early Cybergun variant, along with a comparison pic of the later trunnion.
Bit dark to photograph mine, so these are borrowed from an old (2014) atricle online - (with thanks).
More pics to follow when I get time.


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Above: A later Cybergun front trunnion - simply cast and very obviously too light for a real firearm.

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Above: An early Cybergun front trunnion - machined and much heavier - identical to genuine AK

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Above: Early Cybergun Semi and Full Auto markings - as export Norinco AK T56.

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Above: Early Cybergun serial number - stamped as genuine AK T56 - not etched.
Thanks for that.
Interesting about the changes in the early to later Cybergun models.
I have one here, bought used but mint and boxed about 10 years ago.
Stamped serial number.
I'll check for the stampings on the fire selector side at some point
Any idea what serial number the early variant ran to Nik?
This one has all steel fittings. No alloy anywhere
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Oh, blimey, I had the Y1. It was posted straight to me in those days, 2001.
It came wrapped in brown greaseproof paper, from a shop that advertised in Gunmart I believe.
Yes, it shot through the tube which was very erratic, it used a rotary in a Baikal pistol inside.
Gone now, I didn't guess they'd become so rare.
(I had a chinese type 56 de-act too, bought from an antiques shop in Portsmouth historic dockyard)
The Ak74 was like having a nice de-act imo because I couldn't get on with it.
It came with the tool tube and a sight adjuster (prong on one end, flat screwdriver on the other) and a tee bar (two small flats and a curve cut out on one leg?)
Sorta wish I'd kept them, as in all rifles 🙄😁.
 
I've never seen a Yunker but I did own an LCT AK104 airsoft gun and it was a stunning replica. Stupidly sold it to help fund an Edgun Leshiy that I owned for less than 2 months🤣
 
Thanks for that.
Interesting about the changes in the early to later Cybergun models.
I have one here, bought used but mint and boxed about 10 years ago.
Stamped serial number.
I'll check for the stampings on the fire selector side at some point
Any idea what serial number the early variant ran to Nik?
This one has all steel fittings. No alloy anywhere
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Wow - you have one too. A genuine Norinco type 56 made into a BB gun. It's the only other one I've come across in the UK (but I'm sure there will be more, they'll probably all surface after this 🙂).

I hunted for years to find mine. I've seen serial numbers from about 900000 to 903000 but there could be others. Mine is serial number 901707. As mentioned, the real giveaway is the front trunnion. Yours will be machined - the lightweight cast one fitted to later guns is airsoft and could never support the stresses of a 7.62 round.
 
Wow - you have one too. A genuine Norinco type 56 made into a BB gun. It's the only other one I've come across in the UK (but I'm sure there will be more, they'll probably all surface after this 🙂).

I hunted for years to find mine. I've seen serial numbers from about 900000 to 903000 but there could be others. Mine is serial number 901707. As mentioned, the real giveaway is the front trunnion. Yours will be machined - the lightweight cast one fitted to later guns is airsoft and could never support the stresses of a 7.62 round.
Thanks for that nik
I’ll dig it out when the house is a little quieter in a couple of days and check the trunnions and fire selector stampings
It’s certainly a solid lump
 
Wow - you have one too. A genuine Norinco type 56 made into a BB gun. It's the only other one I've come across in the UK (but I'm sure there will be more, they'll probably all surface after this 🙂).

I hunted for years to find mine. I've seen serial numbers from about 900000 to 903000 but there could be others. Mine is serial number 901707. As mentioned, the real giveaway is the front trunnion. Yours will be machined - the lightweight cast one fitted to later guns is airsoft and could never support the stresses of a 7.62 round.
Just had a chance to get mine out
Pics below show position stampings for the fire selector and early heavy front trunnion
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I see an elite owners club forming here... 😊
Yours is in better condition than mine... 🙁
:D Club of 2 at the minute, though I'd be surprised if @John M didn't have one.
Yes it's nice. Possibly because it rarely sees the light of day.
Thanks very much for the info on these Nik. Looks like it's one of my better purchases.
It goes nice with my newly bought PM framed gen5 Mak.

I want another one now

It will be interesting to see if any more of this model surface
 
I'm pretty sure that @John M doesn't have one, but I bet he'd like one! 😎
You're right - it will be interesting to see if anything else comes out of the woodwork.
 
You're right on both counts!

I'm going a serious shade of green as I type this :sick:
Hi john
I remember when I messaged you about this, I said there was a lot of steel on it.
It also has the steel butt plate with the recess for the cleaning / tool kit with the sprung flap.
Only realised it was there earlier
 
Thanks 🙂 as far as being sold in the UK, all except the Yunker 5 Airsoft gun, although I don’t think that the overall numbers would be huge. Cyberguns have always been a bit of a bargain (and there’s probably more of those around), but Yunkers were fairly expensive, and they both appeal to quite a niche market, limiting their sales.
 
Thanks 🙂 as far as being sold in the UK, all except the Yunker 5 Airsoft gun, although I don’t think that the overall numbers would be huge. Cyberguns have always been a bit of a bargain (and there’s probably more of those around), but Yunkers were fairly expensive, and they both appeal to quite a niche market, limiting their sales.
Thank you chap, I had never heard of Yunker, but had of Cybergun. Now you have set me off on the idea of owning one of these :ROFLMAO:
 
The appeal with a Yunker is that it's made in the Kalashnikov factory, so technically, it's not a replica, it's the real deal. Early Cybergun AKs are also the real deal, and later ones are great value and very true to the real thing, being all metal & wood. None of them will ever be target guns, but if you manage your expectations, they are all really good fun to shoot tin cans on the garden. It's a bit like having a deact that works!
 
This is a very interesting thread - the early Cybergun made from genuine Type 56 receivers and trunnions is a new variation on me and I had been unaware of its existence until @nikvanorton brought it to my attention recently.

I get the fire selector and serial number markings but am struggling to see the differences in trunnions from the pics on this thread.

Is there any chance of some brighter high resolution images of the trunnion area at some point? If possible, photos taken in outdoor light are usually the best as long as shadow is managed. I get this may be difficult as you won't want neighbours seeing you prancing around with an AK outdoors!
 
@John M
Just going out. Same pics, but shadows lightened so should make it clear.

Late Cybergun trunnion on left, lightweight & cast.
Early Cybergun Trunnion on right, much heavier and machined, identical to real T56.

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Yep
My 56 wears the early one as on the right
Very thick machined steel. Not cast

@John M This is my early one.
Far thicker and heavier in the area circled in red
Machined in the area indicated by the arrow
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