270 to 243

The problem with all these less common calibres these days is getting hold of the ammo. Unless you get one of the top six or seven calibres (depending on where you live) it may be tricky.
Reloading components, the same problems exist. The importers are holding back on restocking, waiting to see how the lead free debacle turns out
No body can be sure what's going to happen.
I'm told that the bottom has dropped right out of the .243 market, my friend in Wales only got a pittance when he sold his recently and he had a struggle to get that. He sold it to someone who was going to ship it out to South Africa
 
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Pukka Bundook said:
I was not going to muddy the waters by suggesting the 7x57. But seeing as you boys mentione ",Karamojo" Bell. I thought I'd throw it in.
Mine worked fine on moose. And even bull elk in top gear, As well as deer.
After watching till near dark on the clay banks of the Harrison Flats, and then working back to camp on grizzly trails through the alders, l used to pull my 150 gr sheep rounds and load with 175 gr round nose.
Still undergunned if l had met one, but it still felt better!
That gun with 115 gr Speer hollow point was perfect coyote medicine.
Didnt blow the hides to bits but was flat shooting and V. Accurate.
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7x57? Here's mine, a basic Model B from 1912. Taken out to Rhodesia in 1913 and came back here in 1990. I lucked in to around 500 of the old-style 175gr SPRN flat-based bullets from a pal in Lake Tapps WA.

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tac said:
7x57? Here's mine, a basic Model B from 1912. Taken out to Rhodesia in 1913 and came back here in 1990. I lucked in to around 500 of the old-style 175gr SPRN flat-based bullets from a pal in Lake Tapps WA.

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Nice🙂👍. My little carbine wears the Oberndorf stamp, # 8532 , made 1895.
 
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If the bottom has dropped out of the uk 243 market then at least there'll be some cheap 308 based actions knocking about to rebarrel.
 
chouchin66 said:
Look at equal bullet weight/ drop/ energy @ out to 500 yards.... 7 mm Mauser/ 7 - 08/ 7mm Rem. mag you'll see 7mm Mag advantages.
( not dissing the Mauser in any respect) it's a venerable cartridge.
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Chouchin,

My son now has the BSA 7x57, but when I was handloading for it, I Did look up factory tables for the 7 Mag, and some of the bullets in factory ammo had a rather poor ballistic coefficient.
I found comparing 7 x 57 handloads with good bullets with a high BC for weight, that at longer range, say 500 yards, the bullets with high BC had well caught up with same weight factory loads, that had a deal greater MV.

Yes, at close range, the 7 Mag is more gun! But at longer range, the bullet is very important....in Any rifle!
 
Can I just say here I have never liked the Nosler Partician?
On impact, you more or less lose 30% of your projectile weight.
What l like really is a heavy slower bullet that penetrates and holds together.
Speer hot Cor, or Trophy Bonded Bearclaw or pills of that ilk.
In the 6,5 Swedish, the 140 gr Hornady ELD l think they are called are very tough, too tough for deer really.
On elk and moose though they work Very well.
Yes, they do knock deer down, but not like a lighter Jacketed bullet does.

Oddly, nothing on the box states for heavier game, but they dont flatten deer as fast as the 139 Norma bullet for instance, or the 140 gr Sierra BT.
Maybe in a .264 they might!
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Pukka Bundook said:
Can I just say here I have never liked the Nosler Partician?
On impact, you more or less lose 30% of your projectile weight.
What l like really is a heavy slower bullet that penetrates and holds together.
Speer hot Cor, or Trophy Bonded Bearclaw or pills of that ilk.
In the 6,5 Swedish, the 140 gr Hornady ELD l think they are called are very tough, too tough for deer really.
On elk and moose though they work Very well.
Yes, they do knock deer down, but not like a lighter Jacketed bullet does.

Oddly, nothing on the box states for heavier game, but they dont flatten deer as fast as the 139 Norma bullet for instance, or the 140 gr Sierra BT.
Maybe in a .264 they might!
Only pushing them to 2800 in the Swede.View attachment 728419
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Over in Scandinavia, the 140 and 160gr bullets have been droppin Elk in their hoofprints since 1895. An acquaintance of mine, who is a part-time government culler still uses his dad's m/38 that he used from around 1950.
 
Tac,
Have used a 96/38 myself on elk/moose and they never went anywhere!
(96/38 is a M 96 cut down to same length as an M 38, but with in many cases its nice walnut stock.)
 
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