What is the right humidity level to store rifles at?

Bart Simpson

Busy member
Joined
Apr 3, 2023
Messages
145
Reaction score
191
Location
London
Does anyone have a view as to what is the right humidity level to store rifles in?

My air rifles are stored in a locked wardrobe, safely out of view in the cellar. My FAC stuff lives at the club as I don't have an official gun safe. The cellar at home was probably a coal shoot originally as I live in a Victorian terrace. With that there are are grills that vent the cellar to the outside air.

I bought a cheap device off Amazon for measuring temperature and humidity and got the below results. Humidity spikes into the upper 60% whenever it rains (not sure what the one extreme spike was). Is this bad? Should I be trying to find somewhere to store them within the main (centrally heated) part of the house? How worried should I be?

Screenshot_20260225-192518 (1).png
 
My remote reader reads 80% humidity even though the dehumidifier is running.
Temperature side works well.
 
I used to keep fishing tackle in mine, but had problems with mould.
There was no standing water just damp walls so had a radiator installed from the room above and an extraction fan which didn’t improve things.
I’m thinking if you wouldn’t live in the room it’s not suitable.
I wouldn’t be putting anything valuable back down there, probably be good for growing mushrooms.
 
Most of mine are stored in a boxroom cupboard. In hard cases or gunslips The bungalow is prone to damp - bought some cheap temp/humidity digital meters from Lidl's - 3 for £5? I run a dehumidifier in the room if the humidity is heading towards 50%.
I do sometimes worry about the leather seals in some of my 'oldies' drying.
 
As far as exact, or even approximate, figures are concerned, I don't have the faintest idea. "As dry as possible" is what I look for. As Esoxuk says above, if you wouldn't live there, don't put your guns there. Silica gel bags are your friend. My guns are between the kitchen and the living room, but I save every little silica packet I get with my medication to put in my gun cupboard/rack.
 
Looked at relative humidity quite a bit since starting with 3d printing. Normal ideal range for living space is 40-60%. Below 30% can upset your breathing. I store my filaments at 10-20%. Doing this has also demonstrated just how short a time the silica gel bags are effective when exposed to open air. The indicating stuff will change colour within 24 hours in normal humidity. If your storage isn't tightly sealed, look more towards Vapour Phase Inhibitor products, VP90 being one, machinery places like Axminster sell pots of the stuff for tool boxes.

My cabinets were in the loft for several years with no issues, rifles put away oiled and in a silicone sock, with a VP90 sachet in the cabinet As Nobby says above, avoid putting a cold rifle away in a warm room.
 
NB: sorry for the long post....
Humidity changes all the time, even indoors, (unless you live in a very highly controlled environment).
What you really want to avoid is condensation.

What is Condensation?
Condensation occurs where moist air comes into contact with air, or a surface, which is at a lower temperature.

Air contains water vapour in varying quantities, its capacity to do so is related to its temperature - warm air holds more moisture than cold air. When moist air comes into contact with either colder air or a colder surface, the air is unable to retain the same amount of moisture and the water is released to form condensation in the air or on the surface.

Condensation is generally noticeable where it forms on non-absorbent surfaces (i.e. windows or tiles, metal surfaces, etc) but it can form on any surface and it may not be noticed until mould growth or rotting or rusting of material occurs.

Conditions for Condensation
In Britain, condensation in houses is mainly a winter problem particularly where warm moist air is generated in living areas and then penetrates to the colder parts of the building.

The moisture in the air comes from a number of sources within the house. Water vapour is produced in relatively large quantities from normal day to day activities - a 5 person household puts about 10 kg of water into the air every day (without taking into account any heating), see examples below.

breathing (asleep) 0.3 kg
breathing (awake) 0.85 kg
cooking 3 kg
personal washing 1.0 kg
washing and drying clothes 5.5 kg
heating - especially paraffin and flueless gas heaters. For every litre of paraffin burnt over one litre of moisture vaporises into air. Every carbon fuel produces some amount of water from combustion.
(1 kg of water equates to 1 litre)

Moisture can also be drawn from the structure of the building into the internal air; from below the floor or through the walls/ceilings. Obviously outside spaces, eg: sheds, garages, can be worse affected by condensation due to lack of heating/insulation, etc.

Problems with the structure of the building can mean that its moisture content is unnecessary high.

The effect of moisture generation is made worse by keeping the moist air in the house - it is theoretically possible to avoid condensation by adequate ventilation. Usually in certain areas of a house (such as bathrooms and kitchens) the warm air contains a lot of moisture, if that air then spreads to cooler parts of the house, it will condense on any colder surface.

Up until the middle/late part of the twentieth century, most house had high natural ventilation as the level of home insulation was low. Conservation then became popular and natural ventilation was greatly reduced by the introduction of double glazing, draught excluders, fitted carpets (which prevent air movement up through suspended wooden floors) and the removal of open fire places with the introduction of central heating.

Houses have become more effectively sealed, keeping any moisture produced within the house and providing better conditions for condensation to occur. Ventilation is only effective if consistent throughout the whole envelope of the house. Condensation is encouraged by poor air circulation where stagnant air pockets form (behind furniture and in cupboards) and the first evidence is often the appearance of mould growth.

Modern life styles mean that many houses remain unoccupied and unheated throughout the greater part of the day, allowing the fabric of the building to cool down. The moisture producing activities are then concentrated into a relatively short periods (morning and evening) when the structure is relatively cold while the building is still warming up.

Hope the info helps.
 
Just keep them oiled up and you've got nothing to worry about.
My lathe made from bare cast iron, a metal that rusts as soon as you look at it, has lived in a damp unheated concrete garage for 10 years or more. Not a spot of rust because it gets a wipe with an oily rag when I'm finished using it.
20260227_123610.webp
 
What a wonderful forum this is, thank you for the collective wisdom. Condensation is the enemy, keeping the rifles oiled is a wise defence but what is also sticking with me is would you leave rifles somewhere you wouldn't live yourself. Hmm. I'm a man in my fifties, do I really need a wardrobe of clothes in my bedroom? I mean really how many of those clothes do I actually wear anymore?

The one challenge with moving the rifles to the bedroom wardrobe is having children in the house the cellar wardrobe (current rifle storage) has a series of padlocks across the wardrobe doors. Do I now put a series of padlocks across the bedroom wardrobe? Not entirely sure what aesthetic/vibe/message that projects....
 
I would say around 60% humidity. A lot higher and unprotected metalwork will rust. A lot lower and I would expect a wood stock to split.
 
What a wonderful forum this is, thank you for the collective wisdom. Condensation is the enemy, keeping the rifles oiled is a wise defence but what is also sticking with me is would you leave rifles somewhere you wouldn't live yourself. Hmm. I'm a man in my fifties, do I really need a wardrobe of clothes in my bedroom? I mean really how many of those clothes do I actually wear anymore?

The one challenge with moving the rifles to the bedroom wardrobe is having children in the house the cellar wardrobe (current rifle storage) has a series of padlocks across the wardrobe doors. Do I now put a series of padlocks across the bedroom wardrobe? Not entirely sure what aesthetic/vibe/message that projects....
I would just get some of those moisture traps with the crystals that homebargains & others sell & as others said keep them oiled , I shoot a felt through mine before storage with a drop of oil on to protect the bore too as long as you check & empty the water traps once a week & replace when needed they will be fine. They are only a couple of quid each & come with two refill packs each. Good for caravans & camper vans too when not in use. If where you are keeping them in the wardrobe is really bad you will see the tray fill up in a week not two or three.
 
Back
Top