.25 popularity?

BrettMRC said:

Keep an eye out for a .25 77 or 97...

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I couldn't - two is my lot.

Manley JP said:

I couldn't - two is my lot.

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Who told you that?!

BrettMRC said:

Who told you that?!

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I am very minimalistic and don't like loads of stuff. Even two is more than enough- decided though not to swap the calibre on my .22 TX that I bought pre xmas, to .25 as I can always get the Dominator out- Ive a Chrono on order and have never table and chair/ bench rested the .25 so would be interesting using the .25 Hades, to see how it groups when rested off a table and chair. Cant sell it after fitting Walnut to it and then sanding and oiling the wood. Dominator pics below- before and after wood stock. Would have had a garden plink today but just has been so cold. Just above freezing most of the afternoon.

Used it on a theoben rapid . Worked well . But I think calibre changes on rapids are a ‘ Best kept secret ‘ .

Any opinions gents on using air rifles at around freezing temp levels, aside from would you want to when its so cold, anyone think you might get spring or internal damage using an air rifle in 0 to 2 degree temps.. ? Am sure accuracy would not be the best? Or maybe would it be no problem.

burnsy1989 said:

How do, just sat thinking and wondering, is .25 becoming more popular than it was. I ask th8s as iv got .25 on the way and wonderd if I'm the only one who hasn't had one and has scratched the itch for one.

Yes I hear they have a drop like a brick but you can get pellets at 20 grain which a .22 shoots ok so it seems more to be had out of the bigger pellet when hunting. Less likely to be affected by wind or does it?.

It's nice to have choices but the issue iv seen is pellwt choices arnt as abundant for the .25 .

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I like .25 I use mine mainly for plinking as the impact and effect on tins etc, mine is an old Titan PCP. It is accurate hitting spinners at 38m like any rifle it's just learning hold over etc, occasionally I have used it for Rats in a farmyard very effective, limited a little as it's a single shot, a .25 pellet retains a lots of energy on target, as for pellets it does well with 19g cheap Marksman and 20g FTT, interesting to have in a collection and usually priced well as 2nd Hand as misunderstood and not that popular,

Just thinking in .25 it better to use a lighter say .20g or better to use a heavier say .30g for target shooting at 40-50 yards. I am think less weight less loop, or am I totally oversimplifying it,

Whatever pellet your barrel spits out best, just the same as any calibre

Manley JP said:

Any opinions gents on using air rifles at around freezing temp levels, aside from would you want to when its so cold, anyone think you might get spring or internal damage using an air rifle in 0 to 2 degree temps.. ? Am sure accuracy would not be the best? Or maybe would it be no problem.

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Ive never noticed and adverse effects in my opinion the only factor to the cold temps is the extra clothing your wearing especially with hold sensitive springers other than that the condensation when brought back inside a warm house so a good drying and cleaning routine is a must imho..

Manley JP said:

My .25 liked old Bisley Best, Hades and the Hornets are the nuts. You should get a sample pack. Rifle pointed in .25 worth a go ( Rifle brand are from South America- Brasil I think) - they are not bad.

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As i'd previously said my .25 Ultra likes AA Diablos with Hades & H&N FTT's close behind but purchased a few sample tins of various pellets to try at the range yesterday at 10 & 25 metres.
At 10 metres most were pretty good but at 25 metres-
I Hunter Destroyer were like a shotgun
Rifle brand domed the same
H&N Hornets the same
Polymags not too bad
BSA Blackstar were cloverleaf groups & had the same poi as the AA's Diablos which surprised me as all other hollowpoints i've tried have been sh1te.
Looks like i'll be sticking with the AA's & the Blackstars.
Rick

Chorleyboy said:

As i'd previously said my .25 Ultra likes AA Diablos with Hades & H&N FTT's close behind but purchased a few sample tins of various pellets to try at the range yesterday at 10 & 25 metres.
At 10 metres most were pretty good but at 25 metres-
I Hunter Destroyer were like a shotgun
Rifle brand domed the same
H&N Hornets the same
Polymags not too bad
BSA Blackstar were cloverleaf groups & had the same poi as the AA's Diablos which surprised me as all other hollowpoints i've tried have been sh1te.
Looks like i'll be sticking with the AA's & the Blackstars.
Rick

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Its all about the barrel I guess at times- I put a Bisley Premier in my recent .22 and it would hardly fit in, so after about 2, gave up. I have never even put my .25 on a bench and bag rest- will have to give that a go- normally used to shoot off the back of an old chair.

robthedog said:

Yes!, i purchased a tx200hc, then a Walther/Lowther barrel & had Paul Short change barrels for me. Worked very well, accurate with marksman & ftt's, i only sold it due to osteoarthritis causing me difficulties with loading, didn't use all the barrel i still have a decent size piece of it

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My .22 TX, I am in the process of field stripping and cleaning, as its new to me. My first ever air rifle strip down. I woke up thinking, I may possibly place a wanted advert to see how much a bit of .25 Barrel to suit my .22 TX200 HC might be. I might DM you robthedog as while my TX is being cleaned, lots of facts and figures, just a small thought today.. I only do minimal garden shoots 27M max and may consider the calibre again on the TX.

Its great stuff the QB enthusiasts seem to be on the .25 popularity threads as are the TX owners on TX related threads- although many TX owners probably are looking at .177 threads too if that's their preferred calibre- and a lot of people possibly have all calibre so can look at all sorts.. I was mainly interested in .25 threads, but picked up my second hand TX- am quite interested in TX related stuff now. Like the fairly related Christmas Prosport thread and watching the Tinbum TX vids on youtube. I nearly picked up a Prosport a couple of months back.. Sure it was Walnut stock .22 and about £450 in Basildon or somewhere but I sat on the advert undecided..

One of the members has kindly reserved a length of .25 blank off my wanted advert- so am currently looking into TX swap from .22 to .25
When I joined the forum I only had just bought a .22 Airtact and to be honest, was always interested in .25- although the lead can be a bit pricey. I like the fact that the TX, there is lots of advice online or on here to field strip.. My .25 Dominator, for someone new to doing/attempting any work, I couldn't seem to find much info on how to field strip to clean it, which is something I had always wanted to have a look at. My TX is stripped waiting to clean the compression tube.. Will strip and clean in a day or two, but as have the reserved .25 blank, am hoping to convert my TX and sell on the .25 Dominator as don't want two air guns. I cant see me wanting to use the Dominator since I have the TX. Did have some early feelers on .25 conversion a while back but am hoping if its just the case of engineering a Blank, I can get the TX to .25 Rationale being you can always chuck some Marksmen through it, but I have a fair amount of Bisley Pest, Panther can bashers plus the Hades and Hornets are great stuff. The .25 I have, has the custom refurbished stock, so when am ready to part with that, will do an AGF forum sales advert, if I don't put it on guntrader first. I quite liked the fact that the Dominator is as heavy and long as a .303 Lee Enfield, which my dear old grandad used in WW2 - but the TX, the engineering on it, the quality of the stock fittings, all of the AA stuff, look a cut above. Mind you the TX they seem pretty heavy too.. or is it just me? Keep you gents posted on the .25 thread. Have worked on cars on minor jobs for years, cant be too hard to unbolt a TX barrel and do some of the slog, like final assembly and testing one self and doing final fit and finish.

Hopefully Air Arms TX in.25 are bang on the money at around 27M .. the .22 TX is, from my few shoots on it.

EDIT- initial feelers out on engineering services this am, thanks to recommendation.

Lets keep this thread going,
Lots of interestig comments,i like my leshiy classic with 350mm 25 barrel
I also run fac uragan 1 in 25 cal with zan 33g slugs
Nightowl

My first dabbles in a .25 was a Harper 25 barrel he done for a sharp innova my mate helped me fit it into a spare innova block so i coud change the gun either .22 or .25--it was great but back then pellets were a issue they just were not in the shops ---only white rhino round head --or ramshot jets--they were pointed but did shoot the better out of the two --i sold it all on when i could not get pellets --and i moved onto PCP guns i whish i still had it today --Fast forward 30 years i managed to get new barrel commissioned off Harper in .25 fitted to a titan breach --it was born the titan harper hybrid!!!! Shot very well --i had a bowket power adjuster brand new in the packet from years back which i fitted -to keep things right for diffrent pellets --then i came across new Falcon thumbhole stocks i fitted on stuck on a period scope --The .25 pellet choice is much better these days --it likes most brands the Harper micro grooved SS barrel is accurate as anything with it being non regulated i had to mess around with air fills to see what the sweet spot is --it seems to be around 165 bar The FTT pellets give good groups well the rats have not complained

zakdingel said:

My first dabbles in a .25 was a Harper 25 barrel he done for a sharp innova my mate helped me fit it into a spare innova block so i coud change the gun either .22 or .25--it was great but back then pellets were a issue they just were not in the shops ---only white rhino round head --or ramshot jets--they were pointed but did shoot the better out of the two --i sold it all on when i could not get pellets --and i moved onto PCP guns i whish i still had it today --Fast forward 30 years i managed to get new barrel commissioned off Harper in .25 fitted to a titan breach --it was born the titan harper hybrid!!!! Shot very well --i had a bowket power adjuster brand new in the packet from years back which i fitted -to keep things right for diffrent pellets --then i came across new Falcon thumbhole stocks i fitted on stuck on a period scope --The .25 pellet choice is much better these days --it likes most brands the Harper micro grooved SS barrel is accurate as anything with it being non regulated i had to mess around with air fills to see what the sweet spot is --it seems to be around 165 bar The FTT pellets give good groups well the rats have not complained

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Thats good accuracy isnt it- well, very good - what range was that at ok to ask? I generally was 15-19M just rested over the back of a chair on my .25 Dominator springer and you could often put two or three right by each other. quite tight. Sound a bit batty but my driver for possibly doing a Guntrader or an AGF sales advert some time on my .25 Hatsan, is that you look at an AA TX and have only used mine about 6 times, is that they really are quality- I would rather just use an AA now. I cant stand lots of stuff and like to downsize. My TX200 I have disassembled and ready to grease then test- Will need to put some .22 though to get some TX experience after a year on the .25 Dominator. I have some rough costing's on having a .25 machined. But advised need a choked quality barrel. No immediate rush for a barrel swap-

Roughly 19M image of my .25 last year before the stock refurb- rested on a chair - shot around the pips on playing card, fairly spot on and split a pencil, and that was 28gr Hades, so who says a heavy .25 pellet is no good or inaccurate.

But would be really interested in seeing pics of .25 accuracy at 25-30M to see what you your .25's can do. How accurate .25 is at 25-30M

Manley JP said:

Thats good accuracy isnt it- what range was that at ok to ask? I generally was 19M just rested on a chair on my .25 dominator and you could often put two or three right by each other. quite tight. Sound a bit batty but my driver for possibly doing a Guntrader or an AGF sales advert some time on my .25 Hatsan, is that you look at an AA TX and have only used mine about 6 times, is that they really are quality- I cant stand lots of stuff and like to downsize. My TX200 I have disassembled and ready to grease then test- put a tin though to get some TX experience after a year on the .25 Dominator. I have some rough costing's on having a .25 machined. But advised need a choked quality barrel. No immediate rush for a barrel swap-

But would be really interested in seeing pics of .25 accuracy at 25-30M to see what you your .25's can do.... 19M image of my .25 last year before the stock refurb- rested on a chair - shot around the pips on playing card, fairly spot on and split a pencil, and that was 28gr Hades, so who says a heavy .25 pellet is no good or inaccurate.

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I think i shot that test at around 15 yards from memory ---The harper barrel has allot to do with it --i was very tempted to have one in .30 done but after some thought sub 12 will be asking a bitt for .30

I would be really interested to see any .25 target pics- specifically AA TX200/ PS target pics at 25-30M and what barrel was used.

Edit, when I joined the forum, soon after , had a .25 Hatsan Edge, with cheapie trigger and only went to an indoor range once, in Berko, am sure it was 25M and a cheapie £80 .25 with cheap trigger could hit the little bell targets at 25M.

Don't know why this thread has passed me by.

Anyway, I have a sub 12 ftlb Hatsan Striker .25 break barrel using 19g .25 Marksman pellets good for 5p groups at 30 yards, ideal for greys.

Recent chrono -

516.3
521.4
523.2 - 11.55 ftlb
517.7
Xxxx didn't register
514.7 - 11.18 ftlb

Love .25 size pellets great for old hands.

Looking around for a lightweight mag fed .25 pcp this year.

A bit of a non event .25 plink this evening. My scope I always kept shimmed one end with a 1mm thick piece of rubber, maybe 1cm square and it used to bring the scope up nice on the .25. My friends lad had my free scope on the .22 TX and while am soon to lube the TX, thought I would re scope the .25 and test all the pellets fully rested at 27M as never had rested the Dominator at a table on bag rest. However without putting the shim back, was a slower process to walk the pellets up to zero so will shim it some time and re test. It seems a tad under power I think- some 32gr lead on and off, which I used from time to time I thought may have compressed the spring maybe or worn it, who knows, but not sure when it was serviced- needs a strip, re lube and seals possibly. I am not all that up on airgun tech. No worries. Been using it a year.

Good enough when zeroed but might think about a strip down and re lube on the .25 - the chrono readings are well down compared to Mr Dodgyeye - I read mine between 9.0 to 10.05 , various pellet and pretty lower on tin can basher 32gr, as you might expect.

But before anything like a service, may shim the scope as was the case on the rifle before, then bench my pellets at 27M and see if results are good or bad, as is. Normally just slung it over the back of a chair at 15/17M. Or just get my .22TX up and running as its waiting grease up and assembly, then all being good, strip the .25 maybe. Had the stock off last year to refurb. Should have looked at the internals at the same time.