Accidentally or Negligent Disregard

Seeing the state of that trotter, I'd call it a mercy shooting.

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A friend did it . He often shot his boot ( no I don't know why ) but he would be wearing steel toe boots. One day he did it and it was army boots he had on . It passed through missing his toes.

His steel toe boots had the pellets under the leather .

He never did it again after that.

I have heard of others tripping and firing a shot . One ended up with another person's foot shot but it did no damage .

You can buy a leather patch for resting the barrel on you foot.

I can see the idea behind it but I would never use one or rest the muzzle on my foot.

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Reading that blurb i couldn't help but notice mention of 'rail mounted tactical testicles'..... am I missing something 😕 🤔
 
To be honest i wouldn't feel safe around anyone with a gun who's stupid enough to do that.

In 50 years of shooting on ranges, I've seen 2 negligent discharges. One with a S&W model 10 and the other was with a Webley MkIV. Both were committed by ' highly experienced' armed police officers. One resulted in no injuries and the other had a victim hospitalised to have concrete shards removed from a mans foot. A bit of readymix and 10 minutes work repaired the floor.

I understand that the police nowadays have experienced some 'accidental' discharges mainly due to the way Glocks are holstered by individuals
 
The basic safety rules are:
1) always assume a rifle is loaded
2) never point a rifle at anyone
3) know your target and what is beyond it
4) never put your finger on the trigger until you have decided to take a shot

Unless shown otherwise it would be a reasonable assumption 2) and 4) were not followed and this was therefore a Negligent Discharge.

Those being the basic rules, there are also others that are useful safety layers when target shooting: breech flags, only loading when about to shoot and unloading when shooting stops, plus use of the safety. As mentioned above the safety is an extra layer but cannot be replace basic safe handling.

Had the shooter loaded the rifle with it pointing at a safe target, then decided to pull the trigger with the safety on as a function check and it fired a pellet, that would be an Accidental Discharge due to mechanical failure, but then no one would have been hurt.

The shooter in this case seems responsible for his own injury. Mentioning this more as a discussion about best practice and not to have a go at the person in the picture who shot himself.
Exactly this.

It’s only an Accidental Discharge when a mechanical failure of the weapon or some manufacturing issue with the ammunition has caused the weapon to discharge without a human finger pulling the trigger.

Following Rules 1, 2 and 3 means that when an actual AD happens, no-one gets hurt.
 
Having been shot myself as a lad in the nose by a SCM (so called mate) with my own gun when standing cans up for us to shoot & in more recent times about 10 years ago testing my sons R10 with another SCM who decided to put his hand over the combro as I pulled the trigger as he thought the light was giving it erratic readings but left a finger end between the sensors resulting in a black fingernail for months (luckily for him the reg was playing up again & it was low on power) or it could have been worse.(the combro survived that one) I take safety very seriously. Always have since another eejit shot a hare clapped in the hedge feet away from me across my chest with a .410 (I felt the rush of gas across my chest that time) so I tend to shoot alone or only with long term trusted friends when I do.
 
When i was at the meet the other year on the hft safety brief from @Ganton Gunner he said DON'T REST YOUR RIFLE ON YOUR FOOT...
Someting ive never done...
This feels like the kind of instruction that should absolutely never, ever need to be given to anyone, but sadly this thread is clear proof that I think too highly of my fellow humans. Therefore, has anyone covered not resting the barrel on your genitals, or in fact any body part? Clearly, there are people who need to hear that... 🤯
 
A friend did it . He often shot his boot ( no I don't know why ) but he would be wearing steel toe boots. One day he did it and it was army boots he had on . It passed through missing his toes.

His steel toe boots had the pellets under the leather .

He never did it again after that.

I have heard of others tripping and firing a shot . One ended up with another person's foot shot but it did no damage .

You can buy a leather patch for resting the barrel on you foot.

I can see the idea behind it but I would never use one or rest the muzzle on my foot.

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I am all in favour of this, people underestimate the importance of comfort. The pistol below has taken this into account, to avoid those unpleasant contortions when shooting yourself.

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I recently saw a Darwin awards video on YouTube, a guy was cross armed leaning on the muzzle of a loaded shotgun, the inevitable happened and even though the main event was blurred you could tell by the limp flailing arms that it was bad. I honestly don’t understand how people willingly put and body part in front of the muzzle? Crazy.
 
A friend did it . He often shot his boot ( no I don't know why ) but he would be wearing steel toe boots. One day he did it and it was army boots he had on . It passed through missing his toes.

His steel toe boots had the pellets under the leather .

He never did it again after that.

I have heard of others tripping and firing a shot . One ended up with another person's foot shot but it did no damage .

You can buy a leather patch for resting the barrel on you foot.

I can see the idea behind it but I would never use one or rest the muzzle on my foot.

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Bit of a specialist case as OU shotguns can be broken and so are provably safe.
 
I once witnessed an accidental discharge at the range with a shotgun. Thankfully I was sitting behind the shooter and I could see very clearly that he didn't have his finger anywhere near the trigger. Additionally, the shot went downrange about 5 ft before hitting the floor. The range safety officer was very angry with the poor guy and I had to step in to say I'd seen the whole thing, I didn't know him, and that I can guarantee that his finger was nowhere near that trigger. Weirdly the shotgun didn't go off as he closed it. It went off about a second and a half afterwards.

The shotgun wasn't used for the rest of the session...
 
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